****OFFICIAL 2013 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD****

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2012-2013 NBA Champions:

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Durant isn't anywhere near as good a creator as LeBron. He doesn't make people better to the same extent.

It took me awhile but there is no doubt Lebron is head and shoulders better than KD as an all around player. KD is a great scorer but he doesn't do the things Lebron does.

KD says he is getting tired of always being #2 but he better get used to it. Not changing any time soon.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

It took me awhile but there is no doubt Lebron is head and shoulders better than KD as an all around player. KD is a great scorer but he doesn't do the things Lebron does.

KD says he is getting tired of always being #2 but he better get used to it. Not changing any time soon.

I love KD, but LeBron has always been clearly better.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

It took me awhile but there is no doubt Lebron is head and shoulders better than KD as an all around player. KD is a great scorer but he doesn't do the things Lebron does.

KD says he is getting tired of always being #2 but he better get used to it. Not changing any time soon.

Nobody since prime MJ does the things LeBron does on the court. He's incredible.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

Durant knows how kobe felt back in 2005-2006. ya need help, cant do it by yourself. lol

Many had a problem with the move, but this why LeBron had to leave Cleveland if they weren't going to get him some help. It was quite an achievement in itself for him to win 66 games and even make the finals with those teams.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I love KD, but LeBron has always been clearly better.

My hate\anger at Lebron clouded my judgement so I thought KD or Kobe were at least equal to him. I was clearly wrong

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Nobody since prime MJ does the things LeBron does on the court. He's incredible.

Yep. People need to get over their Lebron hate (except for Cav fans) for what he did 3 years ago and just sit back and enjoy\appreciate him. He is a once in a generation type player.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Many had a problem with the move, but this why LeBron had to leave Cleveland if they weren't going to get him some help. It was quite an achievement in itself for him to win 66 games and even make the finals with those teams.

Yep, I mean the East was WEAK back then, had like what 2 or 3 teams with 500 or lower records, thats when the west was just ****ing brutal. Anyways, its just hard when you got nothing.

Lebron a beast though, he's just so damn big and athletic. Would really love to see him play when there were alot of good centers in the league. sucks its nothing but PF's now days.

[okcchief]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

No, UConn.


Durant isn't anywhere near as good a creator as LeBron. He doesn't make people better to the same extent.

Miami also has way better shooters than OKC as well. Kevin Martin is usually good, but he's apparently a choker.

This

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

Yep, I mean the East was WEAK back then, had like what 2 or 3 teams with 500 or lower records, thats when the west was just ****ing brutal. Anyways, its just hard when you got nothing.

Lebron a beast though, he's just so damn big and athletic. Would really love to see him play when there were alot of good centers in the league. sucks its nothing but PF's now days.

Marc Gasol is a damn good C. If Miami faces the Grizzies, that will be an interesting matchup. And the Spurs obviously have Duncan who is still a major defensive presence as well.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Marc Gasol is a damn good C. If Miami faces the Grizzies, that will be an interesting matchup. And the Spurs obviously have Duncan who is still a major defensive presence as well.

yeah, but 80's and well more the 90's had some really ****ing good ones.

No doubt Lebron would get his, but it just be fun to see. Just like people would go nuts when Kobe and Jordan played against one another, even though kobe was like 18-19 lol

[okcchief]

I can't blame Durant for being frustrated. He's getting no help. This isn't a deep team especially if KMart is gonna play like this. If people were hitting wide open shots Durant and Westbrook would be better creators. Nobody is better than LeBron so that doesn't need to be addressed.

The Finals last year was Durant, Westbrook and Collison against the Heat. Since they have decided not have the big 3 they need to add shooters and a post scorer. Spread out the talent. This maybe a blessing because if Russ stays healthy and you get to the Finals they may stay pay. Weaknesses are being massively exposed.

Scott Brooks is stealing money. IMO the players (namely KD) convinced them to pay him last year. Pretty much they are going to keep him happy which they should. If he wants him gone he will be gone. KD is loyal to a fault so I don't foresee it happening. Load up with talent and hope for the best I guess.

IMO Brooks may have already cost them a ring last year by playing Perk. This year Miami was and is just better.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by okcchief

I can't blame Durant for being frustrated. He's getting no help. This isn't a deep team especially if KMart is gonna play like this. If people were hitting wide open shots Durant and Westbrook would be better creators. Nobody is better than LeBron so that doesn't need to be addressed.

The Finals last year was Durant, Westbrook and Collison against the Heat. Since they have decided not have the big 3 they need to add shooters and a post scorer. Spread out the talent. This maybe a blessing because if Russ stays healthy and you get to the Finals they may stay pay. Weaknesses are being massively exposed.

Scott Brooks is stealing money. IMO the players (namely KD) convinced them to pay him last year. Pretty much they are going to keep him happy which they should. If he wants him gone he will be gone. KD is loyal to a fault so I don't foresee it happening. Load up with talent and hope for the best I guess.

IMO Brooks may have already cost them a ring last year by playing Perk. This year Miami was and is just better.

well it has to be next man up, didnt they get some good young talent from the Harden trade?


time for them to step up! injuries happen man. Just take a look at my Lakers. Just gotta deal with it hold down the fort and hopefully Westbrook can be back midway through the wcf or the finals if they make it that far.

[KevB]

Originally Posted by okcchief

I can't blame Durant for being frustrated. He's getting no help. This isn't a deep team especially if KMart is gonna play like this. If people were hitting wide open shots Durant and Westbrook would be better creators. Nobody is better than LeBron so that doesn't need to be addressed.

The Finals last year was Durant, Westbrook and Collison against the Heat. Since they have decided not have the big 3 they need to add shooters and a post scorer. Spread out the talent. This maybe a blessing because if Russ stays healthy and you get to the Finals they may stay pay. Weaknesses are being massively exposed.

Scott Brooks is stealing money. IMO the players (namely KD) convinced them to pay him last year. Pretty much they are going to keep him happy which they should. If he wants him gone he will be gone. KD is loyal to a fault so I don't foresee it happening. Load up with talent and hope for the best I guess.

IMO Brooks may have already cost them a ring last year by playing Perk. This year Miami was and is just better.

I think Presti's idea was to build a team of young players that could grow together and eventually become a juggernaut. However, Russ' injury this year shows just how precious time is for your great players. Strike while the iron is hot. Who knows when something might happen to throw a very big wrench in your plans.

[okcchief]

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

well it has to be next man up, didnt they get some good young talent from the Harden trade?


time for them to step up! injuries happen man. Just take a look at my Lakers. Just gotta deal with it hold down the fort and hopefully Westbrook can be back midway through the wcf or the finals if they make it that far.

Westbrook isn't coming back this year. Thats been 100% confirmed. They got Jeremy Lamb and Perry Jones on the bench, but they won't see the floor. Brooks is too stubborn. Those 2 have huge upside, and should have been developed this year. No point in making the moves the made of players are stashed in Tulsa for 2 years and by the time they are good you have to trade them too. We'd be better off being a 4 seed with players ready to play. Pop gets that. Brooks does not.

Bottom line without Russ this team is done. Especially, with him making KD point guard. Doesn't matter if its this round or next round. Had no idea how this team would look without RW0 but its not pretty.

[Setsuna]

Sigh. I never even remotely said either was better. I'm purely talking about how to turn a team into your team through your play. Durant can take over games. Maybe he's just too nice at this point.

[okcchief]

Originally Posted by Setsuna

Sigh. I never even remotely said either was better. I'm purely talking about how to turn a team into your team through your play. Durant can take over games. Maybe he's just too nice at this point.

I don't think it's a problem of that at this point. His teammates aren't hitting shots when they are setup.