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**TimeForWasp** · 09-04-2011, 05:51 AM

Something that has always caught my interest. I'm trying to find info that at least
LOOKS real/credible. If you are also intrigued by this subject. See what you can find.

Dexter Manley · 12-08-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

The odds that we are the only intelligent life in the galaxy, let alone the universe is astounding. Whether other species can overcome the distances involved...A century and a quarter ago nobody believed that flight was possible.

Air flight has air to push against, to use to turn and accelerate. Space does not. To "turn" in space traveling very fast is not easy, not like Star Wars flying through the asteroid field. The other problem is that the "contact" need only be a pebble to cause major damage going 0.1 c or faster...

hitting a bowling ball sized rock in space going 0.1 would be completely fatal...

and if you can't get to 0.1 c, Alpha Centuri is more than 50 years away... assuming you don't have to turn to avoid anything.

The simple truth is that you can learn to swim because you can push against water. If you push against nothing...

Discuss Thrower · 12-08-2011, 02:07 PM

Gotta informed n00b laying down the physics quickness, love it.

You're right about the difficulties of maneuvering in space but it's not impossible, just takes thrust and overcoming inertial problems with occupants and the movement of the spacecraft in question.

Fish · 12-08-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobbie

Air flight has air to push against, to use to turn and accelerate. Space does not. To "turn" in space traveling very fast is not easy, not like Star Wars flying through the asteroid field. The other problem is that the "contact" need only be a pebble to cause major damage going 0.1 c or faster...

hitting a bowling ball sized rock in space going 0.1 would be completely fatal...

and if you can't get to 0.1 c, Alpha Centuri is more than 50 years away... assuming you don't have to turn to avoid anything.

The simple truth is that you can learn to swim because you can push against water. If you push against nothing...

Yeah.... if you're simply thinking in terms of normal propulsion known to humans at this point in time.

But what if an advanced species has overcome these trivial human physics issues due to several trillion years of further evolution? What if space and time can be manipulated in ways that we're currently unable to even consider?

Discuss Thrower · 12-08-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

Yeah.... if you're simply thinking in terms of normal propulsion known to humans at this point in time.

But what if an advanced species has overcome these trivial human physics issues due to several trillion years of further evolution? What if space and time can be manipulated in ways that we're currently unable to even consider?

Without trying to start a philosophical debate, then they'd be gods and probably have no need to interact with lesser beings such as ourselves.

Dexter Manley · 12-08-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Gotta informed n00b laying down the physics quickness, love it.

You're right about the difficulties of maneuvering in space but it's not impossible, just takes thrust and overcoming inertial problems with occupants and the movement of the spacecraft in question.

And the "thrust" as we are able to do it now requires ejecting mass at very high speeds, and the mass of what is ejected relates to the mass of the total entity. In other words, if you have to "turn" a lot, it requires your ship to be mostly fuel to do it...

and the "turn or stop on a dime" at 0.1c... get real... it would crush everything inside the ship... and the ship...

Dexter Manley · 12-08-2011, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

Yeah.... if you're simply thinking in terms of normal propulsion known to humans at this point in time.

But what if an advanced species has overcome these trivial human physics issues due to several trillion years of further evolution? What if space and time can be manipulated in ways that we're currently unable to even consider?

I'm all for digging up Egypt to find the Stargate...

ModSocks · 12-08-2011, 02:23 PM

Meh.

We're nothing but a big science experiment. Every once in awhile these aliens swing by and check out how their ant farm is doing.

BFD.

BigCatDaddy · 12-08-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobbie

Air flight has air to push against, to use to turn and accelerate. Space does not. To "turn" in space traveling very fast is not easy, not like Star Wars flying through the asteroid field. The other problem is that the "contact" need only be a pebble to cause major damage going 0.1 c or faster...

hitting a bowling ball sized rock in space going 0.1 would be completely fatal...

and if you can't get to 0.1 c, Alpha Centuri is more than 50 years away... assuming you don't have to turn to avoid anything.

The simple truth is that you can learn to swim because you can push against water. If you push against nothing...

Warp Shields! Duh!

Fish · 12-08-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobbie

And the "thrust" as we are able to do it now requires ejecting mass at very high speeds, and the mass of what is ejected relates to the mass of the total entity. In other words, if you have to "turn" a lot, it requires your ship to be mostly fuel to do it...

and the "turn or stop on a dime" at 0.1c... get real... it would crush everything inside the ship... and the ship...

It's pointless to think of space travel in terms of the propulsion methods and flight characteristics of Earth bound craft. That includes the crafts we've briefly sent into space so far. You're limiting your options to outdated technology that wouldn't ever be used for deep space exploration.

Think of the human race a mere 200 years ago. How many would have argued fervently that it would be impossible to ever travel to the moon?

Dexter Manley · 12-08-2011, 02:34 PM

and, of course, the old "tractor beam..."

Make mine John Deere!!!

**Donger** · 12-08-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobbie

And the "thrust" as we are able to do it now requires ejecting mass at very high speeds, and the mass of what is ejected relates to the mass of the total entity. In other words, if you have to "turn" a lot, it requires your ship to be mostly fuel to do it...

and the "turn or stop on a dime" at 0.1c... get real... it would crush everything inside the ship... and the ship...

Someone has seen too many sci-fi movies and TV shows.

**Bowser** · 12-08-2011, 02:42 PM

I've read that interplanetary travel will one day be possible through portals, or "looking glasses", mirrors that cut through space/time. One second you're here, then step through the mirror, and next you're there. The discovery and subsequent testing of the Higgs-Boson particle will fuel this.

Fish · 12-08-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Someone has seen too many sci-fi movies and TV shows.

You see... that's the thing.....

Discuss Thrower · 12-08-2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Someone has seen too many sci-fi movies and TV shows.

Pray tell which SciFi show has ever realistically displayed full Newtonian physics?

Dexter Manley · 12-08-2011, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Pray tell which SciFi show has ever realistically displayed full Newtonian physics?

or the Kuiper Belt...

just to get out of our solar system, it is hardly "all clear" after the gas giants...

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Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3421616	I've read that interplanetary travel will one day be possible through portals, or "looking glasses", mirrors that cut through space/time. One second you're here, then step through the mirror, and next you're there. The discovery and subsequent testing of the Higgs-Boson particle will fuel this.
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