Rap Sheet: Talks With Alex Smith Not Progressing Well

[CaliforniaChief]

Team that will consider a 1st-round QB: The #Chiefs. Negotiations with Alex Smith aren’t progressing well. Must keep long-term options open

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) May 5, 2014

[suzzer99]

This has to be just posturing. This is a dream job for Smith. He'd be a moron to start all over somewhere.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Wow lets not get ridiculous with our demands or anything. You must not want to trade down with thinking that pick has that kind of value.

According to the chart the 1.23 is worth less in points than the 2.1 and 3.10. So thinking that you can get both of those other 2cds is not likely. Maybe if you drop the 3rd rounder they might give a little extra and give the 2.23, but there is going to have to be a particular player that team wants.

I think you can disregard the draft chart with the depth this class has. You can semantically conceptualize it anyway you want, but I think that this year the quality of players available gives the early second round slots first round value.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I think you can disregard the draft chart with the depth this class has. You can semantically conceptualize it anyway you want, but I think that this year the quality of players available gives the early second round slots first round value.

So then you think the difference between the quality of players will be minimal but want compensation as if there was a huge drop off.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I think you can disregard the draft chart with the depth this class has. You can semantically conceptualize it anyway you want, but I think that this year the quality of players available gives the early second round slots first round value.

That's exactly the point. No one is giving up that much value for the #23 pick.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Joe Germano ‏@JoeGerm16 18m

@TerezPaylor - it feels like the chiefs leaked this intentionally so a QB needy team will move up and the chiefs can collect extra picks

The QB needy team in this scenario would be looking to get AHEAD of the Chiefs, not trade WITH them.

This Paylor guy is a dumbass.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Our best bet is someone like the Vikings or Jaguars wanting to trade back into the 1st to get him.

According to Jason LaConfora, the Rams and Vikings have discussed a Sam Bradford trade.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I think you can disregard the draft chart with the depth this class has. You can semantically conceptualize it anyway you want, but I think that this year the quality of players available gives the early second round slots first round value.

Yep. I heard dome draft talking head today say its about 40 deep with 1st round level talent compared to 25 or so last year.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Inmem58

@getnickwright: Random #Chiefs take: If Bridgewater is available, and KC doesn't take him, and instead signs Alex Smith to an extension, I might give up.

Why? Bridgewater is the LAST one of the so-called better QB's Id want.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by TEX

Why? Bridgewater is the LAST one of the so-called better QB's Id want.

Who is ahead of him for you?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

According to Jason LaConfora, the Rams and Vikings have discussed a Sam Bradford trade.

The Vikings re-signed Cassel for 2 years, 10 million. If they're now trying to acquire Bradford, I wonder if Cassel isn't a part of the deal. They are also paying 1.7 million to Ponder. That's a lot of dough to be spending on shitty QBs.

I wonder if Cassel would get traded to the Rams in that proposed deal. Something like the Vikings swap Cassel for Bradford and also throw in a mid-round pick. St. Louis then drafts their QB at #2 and hold an open competition in training camp for the starting job.

Otherwise it just doesn't make much sense for the Vikings to acquire Bradford. They need to draft another QB. They don't need a guy who is barely better than what they have on their roster right now.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Our best bet is someone like the Vikings or Jaguars wanting to trade back into the 1st to get him.

Agreed. Snag a 3rd and 5th round pick to go along with that early 2nd

[KCSLC2008]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

@ChrisHansenNFL: #Chiefs plan at QB could look a lot like the #49ers plan when they had Smith.

This is why Smith hasn't signed. He's not stupid. He'll sign a big contract now, a team friendly contract if we don't pick high, and play this year out if we do.

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

@ChrisHansenNFL: #Chiefs clearly want someone to trade ahead of them for a QB so someone falls. Classic smoke.

Philadelphia wants a WR. Make someone trade with the Eagles, we have another WR option drop to us. Chiefs aren't sending a message they aren't confident in Smith so that they can get a QB. If they did want to, they'd be talking up WRs or say nothing and get their guy.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Who is ahead of him for you?

Manziel, Bortles, Carr, Geroppolo (sp?) are all ahead of Bridgewater IMO. Not 100% positive Id draft Geroppolo ahead of him but absolutely certain I would the first 3 on this list.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

This has to be just posturing. This is a dream job for Smith. He'd be a moron to start all over somewhere.

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[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by KCSLC2008

This is why Smith hasn't signed. He's not stupid. He'll sign a big contract now, a team friendly contract if we don't pick high, and play this year out if we do.

What's to stop Condon from seeing absolutely nothing behind Smith on the depth chart and then saying, "You can have my client for this amount of money or you can have Chase Daniel. Your choice."