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Old 05-05-2014, 10:25 AM  
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Old 05-05-2014, 09:04 PM   #211
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What's to stop Condon from seeing absolutely nothing behind Smith on the depth chart and then saying, "You can have my client for this amount of money or you can have Chase Daniel. Your choice."
I'm not a big Bray guy, but Bray?

I think Smith will fight for length and guaranteed. The average could be low if the guaranteed is high. Smith was reportedly upset that his last contract took so long, but it turned out to be dragging feet for Manning (same agent as Smith). Agent knew of the interest from SF. They changed the structure of the contract offer after Manning chose Denver.
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Old 05-05-2014, 09:06 PM   #212
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I'm a bit late to the party and I'm not reading through all this bullshit; but if we're talking about trading Smith, I don't see why we couldn't get a 1st for him.
Unfortunately for the Chiefs, they wouldn't gain anything by trading with themselves.
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Old 05-05-2014, 09:07 PM   #213
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Won Indy Playoff game = Must have Smith back

Lost Playoff game = Don't give a ****


Even though he played great, this is what I am thinking now.
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Old 05-05-2014, 09:15 PM   #214
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Won Indy Playoff game = Must have Smith back
He basically did win that game.

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Then your boys on the chopping block should be Houston, Hali, Berry, Johnson, Poe, etc., because it was the defense that basically shit the money bed in that game. Our vaunted pass rushing linebackers and All-Pro nose tackle didn't do jack shit against a Colts offensive line that was abused all season. They got their collective asses kicked by a bunch of tomato cans.

You want to not give a shit, then there is where you can start not giving a shit versus the quarterback that basically shouldered the team for the whole game even when the team's best offensive weapon (Charles) went out with injury.

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Old 05-05-2014, 09:19 PM   #215
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Offseason. My Give-a-**** level is at it's lowest point right now.
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Old 05-05-2014, 09:23 PM   #216
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Who cares, he's still under contract. If it doesn't happen this offseason and he plays well then it will happen next season. If he has success this year I highly doubt he would sign anywhere else. It might drive his price up but he wouldn't go anywhere.
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Old 05-05-2014, 09:39 PM   #217
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Unfortunately for the Chiefs, they wouldn't gain anything by trading with themselves.

You'd have to imagine another shitty franchise would be willing to drop a late 1st for some stability at the QB position. Maybe next year's first.
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Old 05-05-2014, 09:51 PM   #218
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not really

we only have leverage if Smith think he is going to shit the bed next year
16 million per is less than what Smith wants.
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Old 05-05-2014, 09:52 PM   #219
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Offseason. My Give-a-**** level is at it's lowest point right now.
Mine may be negative at the moment.
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Old 05-05-2014, 09:56 PM   #220
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Won Indy Playoff game = Must have Smith back

Lost Playoff game = Don't give a ****


Even though he played great, this is what I am thinking now.
This is the same kind of thinking as people blaming Trent Green for losing the playoff game against the Colts. If Green and Smith got to play against the Chiefs defense, you wouldn't be making this post.
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Old 05-05-2014, 10:04 PM   #221
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I mean they have to get at least ONE extension done between Houston and Smith. If they go through the season playing hardball and don't get at least one done and have 2 guys for 1 franchise tag, holy **** I don't want to be the person having to make that decision. And I'd honestly probably tag Houston and let Smith walk.
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Old 05-05-2014, 10:16 PM   #222
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This is the same kind of thinking as people blaming Trent Green for losing the playoff game against the Colts. If Green and Smith got to play against the Chiefs defense, you wouldn't be making this post.
Agreed. Just as an example, Russel Wilson won a playoff game where he was basically horrible the entire game. 9/18 for 108 yards I think?

Team game. there are a ton of intangibles that go into winning a game.
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Old 05-05-2014, 10:45 PM   #223
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He basically did win that game.



Then your boys on the chopping block should be Houston, Hali, Berry, Johnson, Poe, etc., because it was the defense that basically shit the money bed in that game.
The front 7 didn't lose that game.

And right now Houston is our MVP on defense...
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Old 05-05-2014, 10:50 PM   #224
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The front 7 didn't lose that game.

And right now Houston is our MVP on defense...
no Johnson is
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Old 05-05-2014, 10:52 PM   #225
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I mean they have to get at least ONE extension done between Houston and Smith.
I don't care if anyone gets an extension done other than Houston.

He is, by far, the most COMPLETE OLB in the NFL.

Bar none.

He's excellent in coverage, rushing the passer, and tackling.

In his pass rush he's not a 1 trick pony like Hali. He's got the strength to emasculate T's and FB's.

He's a ****ing clinic on what you need to do to be a successful 3-4 OLB...
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