How Many QOTF players have we had? - Page 2

Luke · 01-09-2007, 01:54 PM

Where does a QOTF gain experience, from holding a clipboard? Doesn't every team in the NFL have a roster space for back up QOTF's? If there is no chance of ever getting in a game, hell even redrums Mom can hold a clipboard.

Haven't we had QOTFs' before that never panned out, or never allowed to be feed to the dogs?
Just curious.

KCTitus · 01-09-2007, 02:17 PM

and Blackledge

ChiefsCountry · 01-09-2007, 02:18 PM

Peterson Era
Mike Elkins
Matt Blundin
Steve Matthews
Steve Stenstrom
Pat Barnes
James Killian
Brodie Croyle

SPchief · 01-09-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Peterson Era
Todd Blackledge
Mike Elkins
Matt Blundin
Steve Matthews
Steve Stenstrom
Pat Barnes
James Killian
Brodie Croyle

FYP

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-09-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke

Where does a QOTF gain experience, from holding a clipboard? Doesn't every team in the NFL have a roster space for back up QOTF's? If there is no chance of ever getting in a game, hell even redrums Mom can hold a clipboard.

Haven't we had QOTFs' before that never panned out, or never allowed to be feed to the dogs?
Just curious.

Do you know anything about football? Ever played? Not many rookie NFL QB's have been ready to play and win in the NFL. There's a HUGE difference in the complexities of offenses and defenses, not to mention the speed of the game. Just because a quarterback "holds the clipboard" during the game on Sunday doesn't take away from running the scout team, meetings, workouts and the offseason.

Look around the league. How many of the current starting QB's even played in their first year? Even Tom Brady didn't play in his first year.

KCJohnny · 01-09-2007, 02:22 PM

The first great QB for the Chiefs was a backup who rode the pines for 5 years in Cleveland and Pittsburgh. Mr. Hunt and Hank Stram gave him a chance in the upstart AFL and he rewrote the passing record book. Once that precedent is established, its hard to change it. Look at the slew of vet QBs that have performed well here: Jaws, DeBerg, Montana, Gannon, etc... Grbac is the closest thing we've had to our own QBotF since Mike Livingston was here.

KCTitus · 01-09-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Look around the league. How many of the current starting QB's even played in their first year? Even Tom Brady didn't play in his first year.

David Carr did...so did Vince Young, who is the NFL's greatest ever player to come out of college.

Otter · 01-09-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 88TG88

how many have we drafted ?

I've been around since '90 and the only ones I remember in that time frame are Pat Barnes and Brodie Croyle.

Bah, QBs aren't that important anyway.

EDIT: How could I forget James Killian?!?!?! I must be losing my memory.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-09-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 88TG88

how many have we drafted ?

Peterson doesn't draft quarterbacks because his coaches don't want to take time to actually develop someone. I thought maybe Herm would be different, but who knows?...

KCTitus · 01-09-2007, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter

I've been around since '90 and the only one's I remember in that time frame are Pat Barnes and Brodie Croyle.

Bah, QBs aren't that important anyway.

right...defense wins championships anyway.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-09-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

David Carr did...so did Vince Young, who is the NFL's greatest ever player to come out of college.

It was a rhetorical question. I know there are many QB's who played their first year but the scrapheap is larger than the successes.

Mecca · 01-09-2007, 02:30 PM

I don't think we'll ever develop a QB with CP here.......we always trade for or sign some veteran when we need one.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-09-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Peterson Era
Mike Elkins
Matt Blundin
Steve Matthews
Steve Stenstrom
Pat Barnes
James Killian
Brodie Croyle

Does anyone look at that list and really think "QOTF"? Four of those guys were second day picks, Elkins & Blundin were Marty's picks because they reminded him of a young Bernie Kosar. Croyle has the most potential out of all of them (successful SEC collegiate career, big games, solid leader) but his injury history and frame leave him somewhat questionable.

If Croyle can develop into a successful backup QB (like Huard this year), I'd be pleased. Anything more and I'd be ecstatic.

Mr. Laz · 01-09-2007, 02:38 PM

i heard someplace that no QB ever drafted under the current KC administartion has ever become a starter in the league.

i thought they also said hadn't "ever started a game" ... but i'm not sure.

Mecca · 01-09-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

i heard someplace that no QB ever drafted under the current KC administartion has ever become a starter in the league.

i thought they also said hadn't "ever started a game" ... but i'm not sure.

I think Steve Matthews started a couple games for Jacksonville.

ChiefsCountry · 01-09-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

i heard someplace that no QB ever drafted under the current KC administartion has ever become a starter in the league.

i thought they also said hadn't "ever started a game" ... but i'm not sure.

I beleive Stenstrom started a game or two with Bears and maybe Matthews did with Jags, let me look it up.

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