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Old 07-14-2015, 07:36 PM  
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***Official 2015 STL Cardinals Thread II***
2011 World Series Championship
2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance
2015 Clinched Central Division title and Home Field advantage in the playoffs. First team in MLB to win 100 games since 2011.

  • Made the postseason 11 times in the last 15 seasons.
  • Only 1 losing season since 2000.
  • Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
  • Made the NLCS 9 times including the last 4 years 2011-2014
  • Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
  • 65 post season wins since 2004. 22+ wins more than any other team.
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Old 07-31-2015, 03:20 PM   #781
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If you post on the Birds on the Bat message board, I am pretty damn sure I know who you are over there.
I've tried to register over there twice and never get a response. Bet it's DJ blackballing me.
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Without that trade that really happened. We don't win our 11th World Series. We don't get to experience rally squirrel, Happy Flight and get to see our team win the best WS game ever played, game 6. So, yeah even though I thought it was shit at the time, it worked out pretty damn well.
How could I have forgot Torty.
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Old 07-31-2015, 06:21 PM   #783
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Old 07-31-2015, 06:26 PM   #784
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Carp just unloaded ok that
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Old 07-31-2015, 08:32 PM   #786
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You can't predict what would have happened with your hypothetical trades. It's your opinion what would have happened. There was some serious team chemistry on that 2011 team. One of the main reasons we won the whole thing. No way we will ever know if your hypothetical trades would have produced that same chemistry.

I think if you could search the 2011 Cardinals thread you'd find I was against the trade. I was so pissed off at Larussa lowering his value. Then we had to take middle relievers to get him out of the locker room. That situation pisses me off even today thinking about it.

Without that trade that really happened. We don't win our 11th World Series. We don't get to experience rally squirrel, Happy Flight and get to see our team win the best WS game ever played, game 6. So, yeah even though I thought it was shit at the time, it worked out pretty damn well.

By your logic, trading Haren for Mulder and the 7+ ERA he gave us in 2006 was a good move for the Cards - afterall, if Mulder wasn't terrible than we probably don't grab Weaver off the scrap heap and he doesn't give us a 5+ ERA while eating some innings during a scramble for the playoffs and eventual title.

You can't just say "oh...well I guess it worked out" and not bother critically examining the deal. Just as Haren for Mulder was a friggen disaster that we managed to overcome, Rasmus for a pile of mediocre crap that the White Sox gave away 4 hours before we traded for them was NOT a benefit to that team. The Cards won despite it, regardless of what dipshit Dan McLaughlin has to say about it.
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Old 07-31-2015, 08:45 PM   #787
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Greg Garcia now has as many total bases this season as Pete Kozma.

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Old 07-31-2015, 09:08 PM   #789
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Greg Garcia now has as many total bases this season as Pete Kozma.

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I literally lol'd when I read that.
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And there's Pete's sterling glove work.

Folks - if you can get yourself into that !@#$ing bible study, you can be on a major league baseball team. That appears to be all there is to it because Pete Kozma damn sure can't actually play major league baseball.
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I literally lol'd when I read that.
Same here. Then looked it up knowing how little Garcia had played and even more amused it took all of 14 ABs to get to that point.
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Same here. Then looked it up knowing how little Garcia had played and even more amused it took all of 14 ABs to get to that point.
Kozma makes an error almost every time he plays an inning. He has done nothing in the past besides the Washington playoff series in 2012. Why should he get so much slack to keep batting .080 and make errors?
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By your logic, trading Haren for Mulder and the 7+ ERA he gave us in 2006 was a good move for the Cards - afterall, if Mulder wasn't terrible than we probably don't grab Weaver off the scrap heap and he doesn't give us a 5+ ERA while eating some innings during a scramble for the playoffs and eventual title.

You can't just say "oh...well I guess it worked out" and not bother critically examining the deal. Just as Haren for Mulder was a friggen disaster that we managed to overcome, Rasmus for a pile of mediocre crap that the White Sox gave away 4 hours before we traded for them was NOT a benefit to that team. The Cards won despite it, regardless of what dipshit Dan McLaughlin has to say about it.
Your the one with the faulty logic here. Mulder didn't perform well. To say his performance helped the team makes no sense. Those middle relievers DID perform well and DID help us win a WS.
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Mo needs to step in and resolve the situation. When walden, Gonzalez or who ever is next on the 25 man roster, just DFA.
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