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Old 10-07-2010, 10:47 AM   #1
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I'm very confused by that trade. That was accepted after Portis was injured, unless chiefen chiefs didn't know he was hurt. Not sure how that deal makes any sense though.

I sent the owner of that team an email just in case he didn't know Portis was out 6 weeks when he accepted it. I'll push it through when I hear from him.
That was my brother who made that trade. Portis wasn't the reason he made the trade though. Marshall was. He if I'm correct parted with Colston yes? He told me he was growing tired of Colston not doing much thus far this season and he though Marshall would be a better fit on his team at this point in time. Portis was just a filler since he traded away a RB in that trade also if I'm not mistaken. Having said that he's gonna have to get by with Peterson and Snelling as his main two backs it seems until Portis comes back. Portis's injury doesn't require surgery so I'd assume he' be back in about 6 weeks or so. Also I think my bro. just want to shake things up a bit on his team given he's 1-3 and all. Can't get to much worse I guess. I'm not anyone to really talk though. My record is also 1-3. Got some catchin up to do I guess.
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:49 AM   #2
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That was my brother who made that trade. Portis wasn't the reason he made the trade though. Marshall was. He if I'm correct parted with Colston yes? He told me he was growing tired of Colston not doing much thus far this season and he though Marshall would be a better fit on his team at this point in time. Portis was just a filler since he traded away a RB in that trade also if I'm not mistaken. Having said that he's gonna have to get by with Peterson and Snelling as his main two backs it seems until Portis comes back. Portis's injury doesn't require surgery so I'd assume he' be back in about 6 weeks or so. Also I think my bro. just want to shake things up a bit on his team given he's 1-3 and all. Can't get to much worse I guess. I'm not anyone to really talk though. My record is also 1-3. Got some catchin up to do I guess.
Yes, he traded away a top 10 back in Bradshaw as well as Colston.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:01 AM   #3
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Yes, he traded away a top 10 back in Bradshaw as well as Colston.
Yea Bradshaw that's who it was he traded away...I knew it was someone good. The Colston for Marshall part of the deal I think by season's end will be pretty even...Colston hasn't done much yet but he'll come on eventually I think. He could have a good matchup this week against a weak Ariz. secondary actually. At the same time Marshall has been putting up some decent stats to this point. I'm not really sure how similar his and Colston' stats are right now but I think last time I checked Marshall's numbers were a bit ahead of Colston's at this point in time. Again don't hold me to that. I can tell you though that he thinks there's too many weapons in NO fantasy wise and that's why Colston hasn't produced much yet this season. Basically he just grew impatient. I still think he and Marshall are pretty even fantasy receivers by season's end. I think he also thought he'd have to throw in Bradshaw though to get Marshall's owner at time to bite on the trade. I told him try Colston for Marshall straight up first if he wanted him that bad and maybe throw in Snelling if he had to just to sweeten the deal but that from the get go Colston and Bradshaw was too much to give up unless he knew for sure that he had to. That's kind of my take on it as far as I understand it anyhow. If Portis was currently healthy, that deal would look a lot better for my brother I feel though. I'd still have to give the advantage to the team he traded with though. Colston and Bradshaw is a pretty darn sweet deal for him especially with the team he's already got.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:04 AM   #4
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Yea Bradshaw that's who it was he traded away...I knew it was someone good. The Colston for Marshall part of the deal I think by season's end will be pretty even...Colston hasn't done much yet but he'll come on eventually I think. He could have a good matchup this week against a weak Ariz. secondary actually. At the same time Marshall has been putting up some decent stats to this point. I'm not really sure how similar his and Colston' stats are right now but I think last time I checked Marshall's numbers were a bit ahead of Colston's at this point in time. Again don't hold me to that. I can tell you though that he thinks there's too many weapons in NO fantasy wise and that's why Colston hasn't produced much yet this season. Basically he just grew impatient. I still think he and Marshall are pretty even fantasy receivers this year. I think he thought he'd have to throw in Bradshaw though to get Marshall's owner at time to bite on the trade. I told him try Colston for Marshall straight up first if he wanted him that bad and maybe throw in Snelling if he had to just to sweeten the deal. That's kind of my take on it as far as I understand it anyhow. If Portis was currently healthy, that deal would look a lot better for my brother I feel though. I'd still have to give the advantage to the team he traded with though. Colston and Bradshaw isn't a bad deal for him at all.
Marshall is a much better fantasy receiver than Colston, and has been much better than him so far this season. I think you're right though and Colston will turn it on.

Bradshaw is a top 10 RB though, and pushes the deal so far out of whack it isn't funny.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:09 AM   #5
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Marshall is a much better fantasy receiver than Colston, and has been much better than him so far this season. I think you're right though and Colston will turn it on.

Bradshaw is a top 10 RB though, and pushes the deal so far out of whack it isn't funny.
That's what I tried to tell him. You dont give up too much if you don't have to...in a sense lowball the team your trying to trade with first. I don't necessarily mean lowball them to th point that you'd be screwing them over or anything. If the owner didn't like that deal I told him to start adding other players to the trade, Snelling or someone else for example...but never sell the farm right of the bat on a trade. Thats just ludacris. Also yea that's what I thought about Marshall's numbers to this point (him being better than Colston thus far I mean). I just wasn't for sure on that and didn't feel like looking it up to be honest. Lol.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:12 AM   #6
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That's what I tried to tell him. You dont give up too much if you don't have to...in a sense lowball the team your trying to trade with first. I don't necessarily mean lowball them to th point that you'd be screwing them over or anything. If the owner didn't like that deal I told him to start adding other players to the trade, Snelling or someone else for example...but never sell the farm right of the bat on a trade. Thats just ludacris. Also yea that's what I thought about Marshall's numbers to this point (him being better than Colston thus far I mean). I just wasn't for sure on that and didn't feel like looking it up to be honest. Lol.
Also postion ranks don't mean jack after 4 weeks. Using early numbers or rankings to justify trades is dumb. A lot of trades are made based upon future expecations.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:26 AM   #7
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Also postion ranks don't mean jack after 4 weeks. Using early numbers or rankings to justify trades is dumb. A lot of trades are made based upon future expecations.
Exactly...well maybe not. I mean I definitely see what your getting at. I try not to put too much faith in numbers if the player is a stud fantasy player and isn't performing to expectations early in the season. Of course this can vary depending on certain situations I suppose. On the other hand if players are playing out of their mind early in the season and have been consistent doing so for a few games in a row, then I might put some faith behind such a player...take A. Foster for example. I didn't think he be nearly as unstoppable as he's been (in all fairness I'm sure not many out side of Hou. fans saw this one coming) but at this point I'd buy in and say he's the real deal even though he's only had a short sample size to work with thus far this season. Another example this year might be M. Clayton in Stl. A non factor for the first several years of his career for the most part, but since he's arrived in Stl. this year he's been putting up solid fantasy numbers week in and week out. I'd say he's the real deal this year, even though like I said sample size this season is short. Now does that make any sense what I'm trying to say?
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That's what I tried to tell him. You dont give up too much if you don't have to...in a sense lowball the team your trying to trade with first. I don't necessarily mean lowball them to th point that you'd be screwing them over or anything. If the owner didn't like that deal I told him to start adding other players to the trade, Snelling or someone else for example...but never sell the farm right of the bat on a trade. Thats just ludacris. Also yea that's what I thought about Marshall's numbers to this point (him being better than Colston thus far I mean). I just wasn't for sure on that and didn't feel like looking it up to be honest. Lol.
Exactly just don't cave in or give a worse deal like I did because your tired of arguing. I'm hoping that vjackson get traded to New England and if that happens I'm set again.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:28 AM   #9
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Exactly just don't cave in or give a worse deal like I did because your tired of arguing. I'm hoping that vjackson get traded to New England and if that happens I'm set again.
Oh, here we go again. You are a douche of epic proportions. You are just begging me to post our email transcripts to prove to everyone that we never once argued, you were never once coerced, and that you were the one to email me and say to be online in 15 minutes so we could hammer out the deal. Is that really what you want? If it isn't then you need to shut the **** up.

There is no reason for you to continue to try to throw me under the bus with your made up bullshit.

**** off.
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Exactly just don't cave in or give a worse deal like I did because your tired of arguing. I'm hoping that vjackson get traded to New England and if that happens I'm set again.
By still going on and on about this you just look like a little bitch.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:33 AM   #11
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Exactly just don't cave in or give a worse deal like I did because your tired of arguing. I'm hoping that vjackson get traded to New England and if that happens I'm set again.
Are there rumors of Jackson going to NE....I don't think I've heard of anything involving that story line. Hell I was almost sold at this point that Jackson wasn't gonna play at all this year. Even after his suspension's over. He might though you never know. NE probably would be a good fit for him too. I mean Brandon Tate isn't really a proven receiver just yet. He's a proven kick returner at this point, but he's still got to prove that NE was correct in trading Moss. Only way he can really do that is to justify the trade with his on field production. Now what I mean by that is if NE's offense doesn't skip a beat without Moss then they made the right decision and Tate as a receiver and not a returner has worked out pretty well for them. If their offense starts to stall a bit it means Tate isn't the answer opposite of Welker and then I can see them perhaps making a play for Jackson. Time will tell though whether Tate is the guy to fill Moss's shoes. Mind you those are pretty big shoes to fill.
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