oscar nominations

[Red Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

There are actors in there that were cast for star appeal versus "can they sing well." Russell Crowe is an obvious example.

And my point about it being a remake is that this is a movie that is based on a brilliant book. It has been adapted umpteen times and run on Broadway. If you're going to get nominated for it, it damn well better be ****ing brilliant. Other Oscar nominees and nominee wannabes are relying on highly original scripts.

So yes, it's a joke for this to be nominated. Best performances, yes.

I agree about some of the casting choices. Most obviously, Crowe, but also Jackman. HBC and SBC also leave a lot to be desired. But I think the rest of the cast nails it. And I'm pulling for Anne to win her category.

I don't really agree about the adaptation element. If you don't think the movie is worthy, that's fine. But that particular aspect of your argument strikes me as a bit strange. Who care if it's adapted, and who cares if it ran on Broadway? This thing is it's own animal, and should be judged on it's own merits (or lack thereof). Which, I admit, may be easier said than done for those who are familiar with the stage version.

I happen to think it deserves to be recognized, but I don't think it deserves a win. I've only seen four of the nominated films, but I think the other three I've seen are much better films.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

I agree about some of the casting choices. Most obviously, Crowe, but also Jackman. HBC and SBC also leave a lot to be desired. But I think the rest of the cast nails it. And I'm pulling for Anne to win her category.

I don't really agree about the adaptation element. If you don't think the movie is worthy, that's fine. But that particular aspect of your argument strikes me as a bit strange. Who care if it's adapted, and who cares if it ran on Broadway? This thing is it's own animal, and should be judged on it's own merits (or lack thereof). Which, I admit, may be easier said than done for those who are familiar with the stage version.

I happen to think it deserves to be recognized, but I don't think it deserves a win. I've only seen four of the nominated films, but I think the other three I've seen are much better films.

Because to me, it says a lot about your film when many believe your gazillion dollar production doesn't measure up to Broadway. And if you're filming a musical, you should not be rewarded for purposefully picking a cast based on how much money they'd bring in versus which ones can perform the best.

If you want an adaptation, Skyfall was a very creative twist to traditional Bond movies.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Because to me, it says a lot about your film when many believe your gazillion dollar production doesn't measure up to Broadway. And if you're filming a musical, you should not be rewarded for purposefully picking a cast based on how much money they'd bring in versus which ones can perform the best.

If you want an adaptation, Skyfall was a very creative twist to traditional Bond movies.

I've speculated that the film was specifically intended NOT to measure up to the stage version, simply because if it did, there would be a lot of people who wouldn't continue to drop serious coin to see something that they could pop in their blu-ray player for a one-time payment of $25.

Yes, I'm that cynical.

[Red Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Because to me, it says a lot about your film when many believe your gazillion dollar production doesn't measure up to Broadway. And if you're filming a musical, you should not be rewarded for purposefully picking a cast based on how much money they'd bring in versus which ones can perform the best.

If you want an adaptation, Skyfall was a very creative twist to traditional Bond movies.

It's hard for any film experience to live up to a live stage performance. Especially when that stage performance is iconic. This is an incompetent effort.

Other than Jackman and Crowe, who do you think can't sing? And which of those do you imagine the studio cast because they saw dollar signs?

I believe in casting the right person. Crowe is a mistake. Jackman is great in the acting of the role. He just isn't hitting the notes all the time. I would have either arranged the songs in a new key, or cast someone else. But I can't call Jackman an out and out mistake.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

I agree about some of the casting choices. Most obviously, Crowe, but also Jackman. HBC and SBC also leave a lot to be desired. But I think the rest of the cast nails it. And I'm pulling for Anne to win her category.

Nails it? I thought Amanda Seyfried turned in the worst performance of the film.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Nails it? I thought Amanda Seyfried turned in the worst performance of the film.

I wouldn't say "nails it," but Seyfried was fine for the role. Cosette, even in the stage play, is a pretty forgettable role. I thought she was fine.

I genuinely don't know what to say if you think Seyfried was worse than Russel Crowe.

The only people I thought "nailed it" were Sacha Baron Cohen, Helena Bonham Carter, Samantha Barks, and especially Eddie Redmayne.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

I wouldn't say "nails it," but Seyfried was fine for the role. Cosette, even in the stage play, is a pretty forgettable role. I thought she was fine.

I genuinely don't know what to say if you think Seyfried was worse than Russel Crowe.

The only people I thought "nailed it" were Sacha Baron Cohen, Helena Bonham Carter, Samantha Barks, and especially Eddie Redmayne.

Her singing was atrocious. Her singing was worse than Crowe's, yes.

[Micjones]

Denzel turned in maybe the most nuanced performance of his film career.
Happened in the wrong year though. Daniel Day-Lewis has to be the favorite to win Best Actor.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Her singing was atrocious. Her singing was worse than Crowe's, yes.

What movie were you watching? She did fine. Crowe's performance was an abomination.

[Red Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

I wouldn't say "nails it," but Seyfried was fine for the role. Cosette, even in the stage play, is a pretty forgettable role. I thought she was fine.

I genuinely don't know what to say if you think Seyfried was worse than Russel Crowe.

The only people I thought "nailed it" were Sacha Baron Cohen, Helena Bonham Carter, Samantha Barks, and especially Eddie Redmayne.

And I think Cohen (especially) and Bonham Carter are mediocre at best and cringe worthy at worst.

But I also don't care for those characters and their story in general.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

And I think Cohen (especially) and Bonham Carter are mediocre at best and cringe worthy at worst.

But I also don't care for those characters and their story in general.

I'm no fan of Cohen - this is actually the first time I've seen anything he's been in - but I liked the way they were portrayed. On stage they're basically comic relief - in the film, they're much more sinister.

[Red Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by frazod

I'm no fan of Cohen - this is actually the first time I've seen anything he's been in - but I liked the way they were portrayed. On stage they're basically comic relief - in the film, they're much more sinister.

That's interesting. I would have thought less sinister. Good to know.

I think I just don't like the characters. And the performances don't change my mind. I'd rather just cut all their stuff, or limit it to one much shorter scene.

But I can understand - especially on stage - why the audience would want a reprieve from the misery. Comic relief isn't a bad thing.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

That's interesting. I would have thought less sinister. Good to know.

I think I just don't like the characters. And the performances don't change my mind. I'd rather just cut all their stuff, or limit it to one much shorter scene.

But I can understand - especially on stage - why the audience would want a reprieve from the misery. Comic relief isn't a bad thing.

On stage they mainly come off as buffoons.

[Red Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Nails it? I thought Amanda Seyfried turned in the worst performance of the film.

That's just not even a little bit true.