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01-15-2013, 02:35 AM | #47 |
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I've said it before, this draft pick will be a statement. If they take a lineman at #1, they're telling the fanbase that they're maintaining the status quo. Which is a terrible message to send when you haven't won a playoff game in nearly 20 years. I may be a Smith guy, but I don't care who it is, take Wilson, hell, take Barkley if that's who you like. Just take one. It's time. The statement they make needs to be "look, there's finally some hope!" Star Lotulelei, god bless him, doesn't send that message. Neither does Luke Joeckel or Jarvis Jones. Picking one of those guys now, even after Reid, even after Dorsey, is just going to deflate the balloon. Energy, gone. Excitement, gone. This team needs a face, someone that's going to excite people, someone that's going to make them believe that things can get better. Yes, that's a lot of weight to put on a rookie's shoulders, and yes, maybe the guy will bust. But they can't keep making safe decisions, and the franchise will never move forward if they continue to predicate the moves they make on what might happen if they're wrong. Enough with the defeatist crap. Identify the guy. Take him. Enjoy some success for a change.
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01-15-2013, 02:35 AM | #48 | |
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Why is nobody talking about Damontre Moore? He is easily that 2nd best option if QB were to somehow miraculously not be the pick. Guy is everywhere and excels at all parts of the game. |
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01-15-2013, 02:39 AM | #49 | |
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I agree that the Chiefs should take a QB at #1 overall, if they love him. I disagree that they should take a QB, just to take a QB, because the stats favor a first round QB over any other round. |
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01-15-2013, 02:52 AM | #50 |
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Did not know about Jones spinal condition. Makes sense.
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01-15-2013, 02:54 AM | #51 | |
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None of the non QBs we're discussing are generational players. There's no "plug him in and he's a hall of famer" tackle or end or receiver or db. So there's absolutely no reason in the world to value any of them over the equivalent qb(s) in this class. It's the same line people have been saying for weeks: if Wilson or Smith or anyone else behind center has top 10 value in this class (and I haven't seen many "prognosticators" who don't think that at least one of them does) then they have #1 value in this class, #1 value to us specifically, and that's the guy we need to target. We're scared. As a fanbase. Terrified that we pull the trigger on the wrong guy and get Akili Smith. I get that. But that's the defeatist thinking we need to move past. Because, on the flip side, it's absolutely impossible to draft Peyton Manning if your pick's a lineman or a back. We've got to stop being afraid, we've got to stop assuming that whatever we do, it's going to be wrong so we better make the safest move we can. Making the safe move is what's gotten us where we are. |
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01-15-2013, 08:09 AM | #53 |
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01-15-2013, 08:42 AM | #54 | |
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This this and more this.
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It you were a casual Chiefs observer, not wanting to go out on a limb, what position would their history dictate to you? |
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01-15-2013, 09:39 AM | #57 |
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If you take a DT #1, he better be a cross between Suh and Sapp. Star is a space eater with no pass rush. No way is he worth the #1 pick. At this point, if they don't take a QB, I'm hoping for Moore, though it would be a disappointment.
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01-15-2013, 09:40 AM | #58 |
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01-15-2013, 09:45 AM | #59 |
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Guess i'd rather have another defensive tackle than Slack Jawed Joeckel.
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01-15-2013, 09:46 AM | #60 |
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Exactly.
Hopefully, once Reid and Dorsey break that trend, people will be on notice that it is not SOP at 1 Arrowhead drive any longer. I disagree with Dane, you draft a QB #1 no matter what, end of story. There is nobody in this draft that is so outstanding at any other position to take them ahead of one of these QBs. |
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