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Old 09-19-2013, 09:52 PM  
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Keep f***ing doubting Alex Smith

The title of the thread says it all....

**** you doubters. He plays with heart, and he continues to get the job done. You people who bash Alex, I don't even consider true fans. He plays his heart out every week, and you continue to bash him...

Keep bashing him, I'll keep backing him.
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Old 09-23-2013, 08:39 PM   #376
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I remember graphs similar to this in the 90s with Steve Bono's name at the top of the list.
Yep.

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Old 09-23-2013, 08:40 PM   #377
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You dumbass. Who do you think made that GIF?

I've been giving credit to Alex for elevating his game in the 4th for 4 days now.
I was more referring to the youtube, particularly after you repeated stated in the PAST 24 HOURS that Smith could never make passes of the nature of that completed by Choco-Grbac in the Jets game.
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Old 09-23-2013, 08:42 PM   #378
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I remember graphs similar to this in the 90s with Steve Bono's name at the top of the list.
Comparing Smith to Bono is about as learned as comparing him to Cassel.
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Old 09-23-2013, 08:43 PM   #379
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Comparing Smith to Bono is about as learned as comparing him to Cassel.
They have at least one thing in common - they've both been carried by their defense.
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:01 PM   #380
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Through 3 games, smith has been the exact type of qb you said you wanted. Don't care about big yards, but makes plays when he has to.

Right?
He's made a couple plays.
I hold out hope for more.


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Comparing Smith to Bono is about as learned as comparing him to Cassel.
Not comparing.
Just pointing out that that graph is really pretty useless.
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:09 PM   #381
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Being critical is fine. It's the constant whining and blatantly obsessive man-hate for the guy that's concerning, especially when he has yet to put up a complete stinker/multi-INT/loss game.
It's not so much hating on the guy as it is demanding proof that he's this "just wins" guy who defies historical trends of QBs who win year in and year out.
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:10 PM   #382
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Old 09-23-2013, 10:58 PM   #383
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:50 AM   #384
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This.

You know what? I believe I'll keep on doubting Alex Smith.
That really needed to be stated? lol
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They have at least one thing in common - they've both been carried by their defense.
Yeahhhh. And now its so cute that 49er fans are blaming that SAME defense that was elite just last year, as a reason that the 49ers are losing.

While the defense that is now carrying Alex Smith, was nothing more than average at best last year....

THANKS ALEX, FOR SUCKING SO BAD that the CHIEFS DEFENSE IS NOW ELITE!!!

Hooray for mediocre qb play!!!

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Old 09-24-2013, 02:31 AM   #385
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You bastard. You couldn't let me have my thread, you had steal my thunder.

I watched the game with gochiefs and DRU last night. ACTUAL quotes from gochiefs during the game:

During a play gochiefs encourages Smith to check down - "Throw it to Charles!"

"Smith has been the only good thing about this offense tonight..... I'm serious."

"White chocolate penis, FTW!"

There is one more that is escaping me at the moment, hopefully it comes back to me later. But yeah, if there was ever any doubt as to just how much he trolls this board, it should now be gone.
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I JUST SAW THIS

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Old 09-24-2013, 04:34 AM   #386
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Interesting graphic from ESPN on "clutch QB's"

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Old 09-24-2013, 07:33 AM   #388
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The key wording here is "in my mind." Smith has won in the playoffs. And the term "game manager" is being used with way too much negative connotation around here.

You remember what Dan Marino's playoff record was during the same time your '90's Chiefs were game managing the playoffs away?

What's Peyton Manning's playoff record? Is he a game manager?

Or were guys like Joe Montana and Troy Aikman game managers? Neither had huge arms, played to within their respective systems and used a controlled, focused offense to win a whole lot of playoff games.

I'm kind of curious as to what is the correct definition of a "game manager" and what QB's fall into that category and why.
So in your mind Alex Smith is Troy Aikman/Joe Montana? OK.

I don't think there is a "correct" definition of game manager. It's kind of like obscenity. You know it when you see it. Common traits of a game manager include being risk-adverse, always choosing safe throws, relying heavily on defense and running game.

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It has a great deal of relevance considering that Smith took the 49'ers to the NFC championship game in 2011 and should have been in the Superbowl if not for a blunder on special teams. That's more playoff wins than the Chiefs have seen since Montana was their QB.
Factually correct. I think we both understand each other's opinion regarding the 2011 season and Alex Smith's performance there. You give him a lot more credit than I do. (And I actually watched that team a lot, because of Aldon Smith).

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Yeah, and just how did those standards stay in place over the past 20 years? How the hell did you stay a Chiefs fan and then why are you happy pissing all over Smith after he starts this team 3-0 in his first year with the team in a brand new system? I'm sorry, but it reeks of hypocrisy.
I finally told Lucy to go **** herself, I wasn't kicking the football this time. She's going to need to put that thing on a tee and go stand on the porch while I kick it.

I stayed a Chiefs fan because that's what you do. Fandom becomes cheap if you bounce from team to team because your team isn't winning. That's my dad's influence.

I'm not pissing all over Alex Smith. Taking a wait-and-see and want-to-see-more approach to him before I BELIEVE in him as the Chiefs long-term QB is not pissing all over him.


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You aren't open to the idea. You totally are discounting Smith's record as a starter the past three years, Reid's record as a coach in the playoffs, etc. You've already stated that Smith should be looked to be replaced if he continues performing at the level he has the past three years - a level that has netted him the highest winning percentage among all active NFL QB's.

Excatly my point. 22-5-1. .803 winning percentage. NFC championship game. 3-0 as a starter on a team that was the worst in football last season, etc. And you are bitching about his shortcomings, questioning his ability to lead, etc.

You see what I'm saying here?
Smith has an awesome winning percentage of late. He also has been paired with great (in some cases, surprisingly so) defenses and strong (at least in San Francisco) running games.

I don't question that Alex Smith can win games in the regular season. If he's paired with a top 5 defense, he can a lot of them. We've seen a lot of Chiefs QBs win a lot of games with those

I question his ability to lead a team to victory in the playoffs against other elite squads, that have stronger play at the QB position. The Saints win is not enough to convince me in that regard (the playoff loss to the Giants is much more damning than the Saints win is praising, IMO). I want them to look at upgrading if he doesn't raise his play and show he can consistently make the big-time plays (over the course of an entire game) a QB often has to make to win playoff games. If he does (what I honestly hope for but don't BELIEVE yet), there is no need to upgrade.

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Did he win the game? There you go.
Entirely a preemptive strike.


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Frankly, I wouldn't care. I graduated from KU.
Your love of and focus on players from the state of Utah is not exactly a secret around here. I think that creeps in with Alex Smith.

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All I know is that he's played very well when he hasn't been the victim of injuries (the shoulder deal was on the doctor) or horrible head coaching and that he's 3-0 as the starting QB of the Chiefs.
3-0 is great. It's exciting. But I'm not going to excuse myself for tempering some excitement and having some concerns and questions about the way the ride ends.
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They have at least one thing in common - they've both been carried by their defense.
Reading through all of these "but the Chiefs are winning" and "3-0" arguments, I keep flashing back to 1995 and 1997 when the Chiefs were winning with strong defense and limited offense.

Maybe this time will be different but color me skeptical.
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