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I don't understand the logic of saying that a 4th and a conditional 2nd next year is a compromise. They're only asking for a 2nd now, so why on earth would we pay more if he exceeds expectations.
I could see paying a conditional 2nd next year, but not on top of a fourth this year. The logical answer is for us to give them a 2nd this year and get back a 3rd or 4th or whatever makes sense in points.
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If a 2nd is too high, and a fourth is too low, why couldn't we offer up a pair of second-day picks to up the ante? We have plenty of second day pics.
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Personally.....I cant believe that this deal has not been done already.
The Chiefs have a "super bowl caliber" offense. But its paired with what was a horrible defense. Surtain and Sammy Knight accounted for half of the NUMBER 1 PASS DEFENSE last year. Do you know what that does for you guys? KC would quickly move into the same breath as Indy, Pittsburgh and New England in regards to favorites in the AFC. And the only thing you need to do is send a second to Miami. If I was a Chiefs fan I would be screaming from the rooftops to get this deal done. Saban will not bargain. He has already publicly stated such. And frankly....he shouldn't. Surtain is probably worth a first and is certainly worth a middle of the pack second rounder. A "2nd tier" cornerback went to the Saints last year for a second round pick. Surtain is a stud, the Chiefs need him. Miami only has 5 draft picks. I cant believe this deal is not done. |
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We pretty much feel that same way, Miami Mike. I'd say 90+% of us just want to fork over the #2 right this second.
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If Surtain is a stud - and I think most agree that he is - then why did Miami not re-sign him? The answer to that question is why the Chiefs - and every other NFL franchise - have balked at the Dolphins' asking price. It's because of what he's asking for in his next contract.
And if you want to talk "2nd tier" cornerback trades, you can throw out McKenzie's name all you want, but, as the original article mentioned, Duane Starks went to the New England Patriots for one of the last picks of the third round barely a month ago. There's no doubt that a lot of teams, including KC, would be thrilled to add someone of Surtain's calibre. But so far not a one has been even remotely interested in paying Saban's asking price. And I don't see any reason why that will, or should, change right now. Wait and negotiate. Eventually something will get done. Maybe we end up paying the asking price, maybe we don't. Hopefully it will fall somewhere in the middle and everybody walks away happy. |
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