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Chiefs’ Quinn has rib injury; Crennel says Stanzi is ‘possibility’ for Sunday

Chiefs’ Quinn has rib injury; Crennel says Stanzi is ‘possibility’ for Sunday
By SAM McDOWELL
The Kansas City Star
A physical Oakland Raiders defense took its toll on the Chiefs on Sunday for the second time this season.

Once again, quarterback Brady Quinn was one of the victims.

Chiefs coach Romeo Crennel revealed Monday that Quinn emerged from the 15-0 loss in Oakland with an injury to his ribs, leaving his status for Sunday’s home finale against Indianapolis in doubt — and leaving the Chiefs’ quarterback situation familiarly muddled.

“He stood in there pretty tough and took a beating basically,” Crennel said.

Crennel said Quinn’s injury would be reevaluated Tuesday, but whether he gets the call under center won’t necessarily depend exclusively on his health. Asked who would start Sunday if Quinn is healthy, Crennel was noncommittal.

He was similarly vague when presented with the hypothetical of Quinn’s absence, allowing for the possibility that Ricky Stanzi could be in line to make his NFL regular-season debut against the Colts.

“There’s a possibility,” Crennel said of Stanzi playing Sunday. “Like I said last week, there’s a possibility, and I mentioned injuries as one of the reasons. We’ll see what Brady looks like, and then we’ll make some decisions and go from there.”

The severity of Quinn’s injury is unknown, though he was able to finish Sunday’s game in Oakland, completing 18 of 32 passes for 136 yards, only 4.3 yards per attempt.

He was sacked four times and forced out of the pocket numerous others while the Raiders’ defensive line physically dominated the Chiefs’ offensive line.

“Everything,” offensive lineman Eric Winston responded Monday when asked what went wrong offensively. “You can’t point the finger at one guy. We didn’t open up (running lanes) at all. We didn’t (pass) protect at all.”

That left Quinn forced to hurry several throws. He was hit particularly hard on a fourth-down incomplete pass to Jon Baldwin with more than nine minutes left.

Quinn’s rib injury comes seven weeks after he departed a 26-16 home loss against the Raiders because of a concussion — a game in which he attempted to continue playing before players and coaches spotted his symptoms. He missed the following two games, in San Diego and Pittsburgh, and Matt Cassel started in his place.

With Quinn under center, the Chiefs have accumulated seven straight scoreless quarters since Jamaal Charles’ 80-yard touchdown run on the first play of a 30-7 loss to Cleveland a week ago.

The Raiders have presented a particularly bad matchup for the Chiefs this season. After entering Sunday allowing a league-high 31 points per game, they shut out the Chiefs, holding them to 119 total yards.

“They haven’t exactly lit the world on fire,” Winston said, “but for whatever reason, we haven’t fared too well against them.”

Whoever lines up under center Sunday against the Colts will require an improved performance from a receiving corps that left much to be desired against the Raiders. After Dexter McCluster, who caught seven passes, the remaining Chiefs wideouts — Devon Wylie, Jamar Newsome and Baldwin — combined for two catches on 10 targets.

“(Separation) seems to be the problem with all of our receivers — against the Raiders anyway,” Crennel said.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:58 AM   #61
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It would be fun to watch Stanzi just to get a feel for his mechanics, accuracy, arm strength, and timing. Could be interesting to see.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:01 AM   #62
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In Pioil's defense, the Lindley/Skelton duo in Arizona is worse than Cassel/Quinn.
Sorry, not piling on you but pioli has no defense because Casselgate trumped every other move he hade. He destoyed an entire franchise because of Cassel. Hard to do but he did it.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:02 AM   #63
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Settle down, Joe Montana would look like a chump with our receivers. Nobody can win with this stable of losers. Does Baldwin even run routes or does he just go out there and free lance? He looks awful. Our world famous midget crew couldn't catch a first down. Our tight ends look good but they have about zero YAC so far this year. We will lose because we are the worse team in football history. I realy feel sorry for Quinn. He had no chance and neither will Stanzi.
I cant believe some of the shit people in this board shovel down.

The problem is the qb or play calling or both. F no they cant get separation when they run 4 yard routes. They don't go down field cuz the qb can't make that throw, or they are afraid to let them try.

Daboli sucks for one our qbs suck as well.

Crennel just won't say his qbs & OC suck.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:04 AM   #64
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:07 AM   #65
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Sorry, not piling on you but pioli has no defense because Casselgate trumped every other move he hade. He destoyed an entire franchise because of Cassel. Hard to do but he did it.
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It would be fun to watch Stanzi just to get a feel for his mechanics, accuracy, arm strength, and timing. Could be interesting to see.
Post a couple of wins... and we don't need a QB early next draft. No thanks. If he wasn't good enough for the brass to even suit up during this crappy season, keep him in street clothes the last two weeks too.
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I cant believe some of the shit people in this board shovel down.

The problem is the qb or play calling or both. F no they cant get separation when they run 4 yard routes. They don't go down field cuz the qb can't make that throw, or they are afraid to let them try.

Daboli sucks for one our qbs suck as well.

Crennel just won't say his qbs & OC suck.
I have seen passes that were perfectly placed but the receiver adjusted his route so the ball went where it was supposed to be but the guy wasn't there to catch it. Deep patterns that would have been for a score but Baldwin for some reason slowed down while running under the ball so it ended up going too far for him to catch. WTF is that about? Why did you slow down? Quinn can't know you are going to do that? And yes, we have a horrible OC. Daboli has no creativity. He sucks. Him and Pioli should be forever bonded together as punishment for what they have done here.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:17 AM   #68
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Post a couple of wins... and we don't need a QB early next draft. No thanks. If he wasn't good enough for the brass to even suit up during this crappy season, keep him in street clothes the last two weeks too.
If Quinn is even remotely healthy, he'll play. This is his last chance in the NFL and he's not going to go to the bench quietly.

That being said, we may not have a choice - if Quinn can't go, who else plays? Cassel?

There's a better chance of winning with Cassel than with Stanzi. I know nobody wants to hear that but it's the truth.
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Shit, there's a better chance of winning with Cassel than QUINN.

Quinn is horrible and worse than Cassel in every measurable statistic. People don't want to hear it but that's the truth.

Better arm, but big ****ing deal.
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With as little prep and reps as they've given Stanzi this year, there's no way he upsets our chances at losing out. The win could be seeing if he has enough raw talent to be our backup next year. Otherwise, I see no choice but to draft two QB's in the first 4-5 rounds. The position is just so vital that we need every chance to get it right.
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With as little prep and reps as they've given Stanzi this year, there's no way he upsets our chances at losing out. The win could be seeing if he has enough raw talent to be our backup next year. Otherwise, I see no choice but to draft two QB's in the first 4-5 rounds. The position is just so vital that we need every chance to get it right.
Uh, nothing later than Rd 1 & Rd 3 at the most.

Rd 4 & 5 is a wish on lesser talent. Slim pickings.
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Uh, nothing later than Rd 1 & Rd 3 at the most.

Rd 4 & 5 is a wish on lesser talent. Slim pickings.
I'm actually trying to be more realistic. Because if it was me...I'd do what the Cowboys did back in the 90's and draft 1st and 2nd round QB's. Steve Walsh never amounted to anything, but taking Aikman and Walsh was a smart move then I'd be elated if we made a similar type move.
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Sorry, not piling on you but pioli has no defense because Casselgate trumped every other move he hade. He destoyed an entire franchise because of Cassel. Hard to do but he did it.
Go ahead and pile on. That's what we do here.
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Until I hear that Stanzi has been announced as starter, I'm not buying it. Cassel will start or Quinn will limp out there.
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If Quinn is hurt and Cassel starts instead, there is zero chance Stanzi is here next year. He must be SOOOOOOO bad to not get any snaps on a 2-12 team.

Another wasted pick who is only taking up roster space
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