Patriots Four Rule Proposals

[Amnorix]

The Patriots submitted four rules proposals for discussion at next week's NFL owners' meetings.

1. Goal posts extended an additional 5 feet above the cross bar. "The reasoning of this proposal is that definitive rulings cannot be made on many field goal tries that cross over the top of the goal post."

2. Make the extra point more challenging by making the line of scrimmage the 25-yard line. "In order to make the point after a more competitive play."

3. Place fixed cameras on all boundary lines -- sideline, end line, end zone. "To supplement the TV cameras and to guarantee coverage of those lines for replay, no matter where the TV cameras are located."

4. Coaches can challenge any officials' decision other than scoring plays. "To make more extensive use of the replay system."

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-england-...rule-proposals


Discuss.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by temper11

We are discussing a rule change in football. Because we disagree doesn't mean we need to be mortal enemies.

Hmmm, a mature approach. Seems like it would be worth a try.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

No, it's the wrong rule. When defensive PI is a play in the offensive playbook, the rule is flawed.

It's in the offensive playbook because of how it's called, not because of the penalty itself. Calling a 40 yard penalty only 15 yards is one of the reasons I don't watch college football. Rewarding bad defense like that is the kind of stupidity doesn't warrant viewership.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by temper11

I'm still missing your point... surprisingly, you're cute little laughy icon didn't clear it up for me at all.

Why does everything with you need to boil down to insults. We are discussing a rule change in football. Because we disagree doesn't mean we need to be mortal enemies.

Because you spent a paragraph defending the use of the PAT, something that almost NEVER fails, as a means to win a game.

If that doesn't fit in with 20 years and 0 playoff wins, I don't know what does.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

It's in the offensive playbook because of how it's called, not because of the penalty itself. Calling a 40 yard penalty only 15 yards is one of the reasons I don't watch college football. Rewarding bad defense like that is the kind of stupidity doesn't warrant viewership.

You'd have a point if that were a common occurrence in college football.

It's not.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You'd have a point if that were a common occurrence in college football.

It's not.

Don't you think that if they make the rule a 15 or 20 yarder, defenders will just tackle receivers who have gotten behind them on a bomb? It seems like there's a problem with gaming the rule whichever way you go.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Don't you think that if they make the rule a 15 or 20 yarder, defenders will just tackle receivers who have gotten behind them on a bomb? It seems like there's a problem with gaming the rule whichever way you go.

Sure they will, it happens. But it doesn't happen with NEAR the frequency that chuck and pray passes happen in the NFL.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Because you spent a paragraph defending the use of the PAT, something that almost NEVER fails, as a means to win a game.

If that doesn't fit in with 20 years and 0 playoff wins, I don't know what does.

Man you are so freakin' bent about the Chiefs lack of success in the playoffs that it clouds your thought process in every discussion. When your wife gets pissed at you for leaving the toilet seat up, do you point to the Chiefs 0 and 20 as your excuse?

I don't like the rule change because it is an unnecessary change to a game that I already love. If it aint' broke, don't fix it. So it's often a meaningless point. So what? The times that it isn't a meaningless point make it worth leaving alone unless there is some important reason to change it - in my opinion.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Im down for 15 yard defensive PI. Receivers are getting amazing at initiating the contact to draw a flag. I ****ing hate it.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by temper11

Man you are so freakin' bent about the Chiefs lack of success in the playoffs that it clouds your thought process in every discussion.

Clouds? It's called clarity, my rose-colored glasses-wearing friend.

Originally Posted by temper11

When your wife gets pissed at you for leaving the toilet seat up, do you point to the Chiefs 0 and 20 as your excuse?

Hmm, in the 12 or so years I've been here, I don't ever remember discussing the toilet seat on Chiefsplanet. I mean, this is a CHIEFS message board, right?

[temper11]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Clouds? It's called clarity, my rose-colored glasses-wearing friend.

the discussion regarding PAT's has absolutely nothing to do with the Chiefs specifically. NOTHING. If you think it does then even through my rose-colored glasses can I see that you have blinders on.

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Hmm, in the 12 or so years I've been here, I don't ever remember discussing the toilet seat on Chiefsplanet. I mean, this is a CHIEFS message board, right?

This is where I would put up the cute little laughy guy and say you missed the point.

[kccrow]

I don't have much of a problem with any of the rule proposals.

As for offensive PI "pick plays," here are the definitive rules that pertain:

Rule 8 Section 5 Article 2 (e): Cutting off the path of an opponent by making contact with him without playing the ball.

Rule 8 Secton 5 Article 4: Blocking downfield by an offensive player prior to a pass being thrown is offensive pass interference.
Note: It is also pass interference by the offense to block a defender beyond the line while the pass is in the air, if the block occurs in the vicinity of the player to whom the pass was thrown.

[Dayze]

I watched a clip of Belichek on NFL, and he basically, in so many words, said the extra point is a meaningless ****ing play lol. it was awesome.
"Fans don't watch it. it's nearly impossible to block a kick. we can't hit the center. we can't push; we can't leap; we can't overload. "

lol