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Old 06-24-2014, 02:59 PM   #6421
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Old 06-24-2014, 03:19 PM   #6422
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I thought you didn't trade an arm for an arm or a bat for a bat. I thought it was one of the other (especially starters)
Generally, you don't.

The Royals have been to 3 straight Samardzija starts. Unless they're making the trade without including Duffy or Ventura, it doesn't help them win this year, at least not THAT much.
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Old 06-24-2014, 03:42 PM   #6423
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There's still that JC Sulbaran guy down at AA, he's having a pretty good year IIRC.
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Old 06-24-2014, 03:44 PM   #6424
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Generally, you don't.

The Royals have been to 3 straight Samardzija starts. Unless they're making the trade without including Duffy or Ventura, it doesn't help them win this year, at least not THAT much.
It could be an opportunity to replace James Shields for next year and get better this year. Maybe a package that includes Zimmer as the "close to ready" pitcher and another top prospect or two.

I would hate to get rid of Mondesi and Zimmer for Samardzija but that could get it done without moving Duff or Ventura.
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Old 06-24-2014, 03:54 PM   #6425
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It could be an opportunity to replace James Shields for next year and get better this year. Maybe a package that includes Zimmer as the "close to ready" pitcher and another top prospect or two.

I would hate to get rid of Mondesi and Zimmer for Samardzija but that could get it done without moving Duff or Ventura.
No effing way I make that move.

In two full years as a starter in the NL, Jeff Samardzija has never posted an ERA under 3.83. He started last season hot as well, then turned to dogshit from June on.

March/April 2013: 3.35 ERA, 1.17 WHIP
May 2013: 2.31, 0.91
June 2013: 4.20 ERA, 1.48 WHIP
July 2013: 5.28, 1.57
August 2013: 5.54, 1.49
September/October 2013: 5.58, 1.50


March April 2014: 1.98 ERA, 1.24 ERA
May 2014: 1.32, 0.85
June 2014: 4.82, 1.54
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Old 06-24-2014, 03:55 PM   #6426
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Better move remains acquiring a bat.

Adrian Beltre is by far the best target for the Royals, so let's hope the Rangers continue to tank.
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Old 06-24-2014, 03:55 PM   #6427
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No effing way I make that move.

In two full years as a starter in the NL, Jeff Samardzija has never posted an ERA under 3.83. He started last season hot as well, then turned to dogshit from June on.

March/April 2013: 3.35 ERA, 1.17 WHIP
May 2013: 2.31, 0.91
June 2013: 4.20 ERA, 1.48 WHIP
July 2013: 5.28, 1.57
August 2013: 5.54, 1.49
September/October 2013: 5.58, 1.50


March April 2014: 1.98 ERA, 1.24 ERA
May 2014: 1.32, 0.85
June 2014: 4.82, 1.54
Plus he'd be moving from the NL to the AL.
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Old 06-24-2014, 03:59 PM   #6428
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No effing way I make that move.

In two full years as a starter in the NL, Jeff Samardzija has never posted an ERA under 3.83. He started last season hot as well, then turned to dogshit from June on.

March/April 2013: 3.35 ERA, 1.17 WHIP
May 2013: 2.31, 0.91
June 2013: 4.20 ERA, 1.48 WHIP
July 2013: 5.28, 1.57
August 2013: 5.54, 1.49
September/October 2013: 5.58, 1.50


March April 2014: 1.98 ERA, 1.24 ERA
May 2014: 1.32, 0.85
June 2014: 4.82, 1.54
What about for one or the other? Let's say Zimmer and a guy like Jorge Bonafacio or Cuthbert?

I'm not sold on him either, I am just saying there are ways to get this deal done without giving up Duffy/Ventura and moving sideways.
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:03 PM   #6429
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What about for one or the other? Let's say Zimmer and a guy like Jorge Bonafacio or Cuthbert?

I'm not sold on him either, I am just saying there are ways to get this deal done without giving up Duffy/Ventura and moving sideways.
I'm still not a huge fan of Jeff Samardzija and still not convinced he doesn't go Luke Hochevar on you in the second half of the season.

If they're going to move Zimmer, I'd rather see it be for an impact bat. I absolutely would not include Mondesi in any deal, period, unless it's for David Price.

I'd be interested in seeing what Texas says if offered something like Zimmer, Cuthbert and Moustakas (maybe add a piece or subtract a piece) long before offering a similar package for Jeff Samardzija.
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And are you still arguing that Salvy should have been platooned when he has a .290 career average against righties? You are a professional at hyperbolic overreactions and as your past posts prove, there is little reason to take your conclusions seriously.
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:10 PM   #6431
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I'm still not a huge fan of Jeff Samardzija and still not convinced he doesn't go Luke Hochevar on you in the second half of the season.

If they're going to move Zimmer, I'd rather see it be for an impact bat. I absolutely would not include Mondesi in any deal, period, unless it's for David Price.

I'd be interested in seeing what Texas says if offered something like Zimmer, Cuthbert and Moustakas (maybe add a piece or subtract a piece) long before offering a similar package for Jeff Samardzija.
If Zimmer didn't have the injury issues I think that is a realistic possibility. I just wonder how much teams are really going to give up in a deal that is centered around a guy who has basically been hurt for a year.
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Adrian Beltre is by far the best target for the Royals, so let's hope the Rangers continue to tank.
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And are you still arguing that Salvy should have been platooned when he has a .290 career average against righties? You are a professional at hyperbolic overreactions and as your past posts prove, there is little reason to take your conclusions seriously.
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And are you still arguing that Salvy should have been platooned when he has a .290 career average against righties? You are a professional at hyperbolic overreactions and as your past posts prove, there is little reason to take your conclusions seriously.

I'm not convinced we "won" the Greinke deal. You are? So far Esobar and Cain have been pretty blasé, until this season. If Cain stays healthy then it changes quite a bit. Also you have to NPV trades. Getting some more WAR in the out years doesn't equal getting it now, nor does it account for the fact Milwaukee has already replaced both (with equal or better players mind you) at the same cost.
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I'm not convinced we "won" the Greinke deal. You are? So far Esobar and Cain have been pretty blasé, until this season. If Cain stays healthy then it changes quite a bit. Also you have to NPV trades. Getting some more WAR in the out years doesn't equal getting it now, nor does it account for the fact Milwaukee has already replaced both (with equal or better players mind you) at the same cost.
Still firm on your (Late April 2014) belief that Gordo is an "utter disgrace?"
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