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Old 12-28-2012, 09:13 AM   #1
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:58 AM   #2
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Cmon guys, we coulda won an extra game or 2, missed out on Geno, and then fired his ass after this season. It would have been awesome.
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"According to Sports Illustrated, Oregon's Chip Kelly will be looking for "near complete control when it comes to personnel decision-making power" if he's to make the jump to the NFL.
SI's Don Banks believes that could make Kelly a no-go for the Eagles, who are expected to make a big push for the Ducks' innovative offensive mind. According to Banks, Kelly could also be a possibility for the Panthers. With only an interim GM in place in Carolina, Kelly could likely get the "complete control" he's seeking if coach Ron Rivera is dismissed. Kelly's addition would be an exciting one for Cam Newton."

This is in the same article in the link above, btw.
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Chip Kelly and Cam Newton would be a powerful pairing, IMO.
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:49 AM   #6
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Old 12-28-2012, 12:40 PM   #7
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Has Haley ever won much without a HOF QB and future HOF WR?
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:01 PM   #8
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Has Haley ever won much without a HOF QB and future HOF WR?
2010 was a good year. Certainly enough to see potential in the coach and team. The rest is a criticism for how many wins you have in a half season behind a shitty qb missing the running back who masked how bad the qb was.

So the answer is... How much opportunity did he have to prove he could build a winning team? And how much would that have changed if pioli listened and got even an average qb. Even if romeo won the last 2 of three games, we saw that the problems with Haley's team all seemed to disappear with a better qb.
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:19 PM   #9
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2010 was a good year. Certainly enough to see potential in the coach and team. The rest is a criticism for how many wins you have in a half season behind a shitty qb missing the running back who masked how bad the qb was.

So the answer is... How much opportunity did he have to prove he could build a winning team? And how much would that have changed if pioli listened and got even an average qb. Even if romeo won the last 2 of three games, we saw that the problems with Haley's team all seemed to disappear with a better qb.
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:23 PM   #10
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Given that this team went 4-3 to start the year behind horrendous qb play and a terrible running game, you never once thought about what the season would have looked like with orton all season long and a healthy jamaal charles?
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Given that this team went 4-3 to start the year behind horrendous qb play and a terrible running game, you never once thought about what the season would have looked like with orton all season long and a healthy jamaal charles?
And those 4 wins were against who?


The McNabb led Vikes, Colts, MNF miracle, and ?
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Or dissappear once Haley was removed?


It's funny that you are willing to make all these excuses for Haley, because you feel he was this great motivator and his guys played so hard for him, when in fact they got blown out time after time when they didn't play hard. Even in 2010.

So, no it's not on Haley, but he deserves part of it.
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Or dissappear once Haley was removed?


It's funny that you are willing to make all these excuses for Haley, because you feel he was this great motivator and his guys played so hard for him, when in fact they got blown out time after time when they didn't play hard. Even in 2010.

So, no it's not on Haley, but he deserves part of it.
Blowouts aren't blowouts when you have a qb that can win games where the opponent scores more than 20 points. How many blowouts would we have had if we hash Aaron Rodgers engineering the comeback instead of Matt 3-and-out cassel?
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Blowouts aren't blowouts when you have a qb that can win games where the opponent scores more than 20 points. How many blowouts would we have had if we hash Aaron Rodgers engineering the comeback instead of Matt 3-and-out cassel?
Sure, if we had one of the top 3 QB's in the NFL, fine. So now we are saying Haley can't win without a top 5 franchise QB?


So how many blowouts this year do you put on Crennel, cause he has a QB core as bad as Haley?

Blowouts are blowouts when your team tunes you out and quits on you, which is what happened last year.


I'm not against Haley, I liked the hire. But when you have to make this many excuses as to why he failed, it begins to look a little off.

Was he the main culprit? No probably not. Does he deserve blame for it? Yeah
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Was he the main culprit? No probably not. Does he deserve blame for it? Yeah
It is difficult for me to fault a HC when his QB is Matt Cassel.
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