Restating the obvious, Dorsey learned from Ted Thompson

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/03/packers-prefer-compensatory-picks-over-unrestricted-free-agents/


Packers General Manager Ted Thompson has a formula for building his team, and he’s sticking with it.

Thompson believes in building through the draft, not free agency, and that includes acquiring more draft picks by declining to sign unrestricted free agents. In the NFL, teams that lose more in free agency than they acquire get compensatory picks, and the Packers’ moves in free agency this year indicate that they’re already thinking about acquiring compensatory picks for next year. The NFL doesn’t public the precise formula used to determine compensatory picks, but the simple version is that if the unrestricted free agents you lose are better, higher-paid players than the unrestricted free agents you sign, then the NFL will compensate you the following year with compensatory picks.

As the Green Bay Press-Gazette points out, even the one big name the Packers have signed this offseason, Julius Peppers, was a free agent because he was released by the Bears, not because his previous contract expired. That means he won’t count as an unrestricted free agent addition for the Packers for the purpose of determining their compensatory picks next year.

Last year the Packers lost two key players, receiver Greg Jennings and linebacker Erik Walden, as unrestricted free agents. And the Packers didn’t sign any unrestricted free agents last year. As a result, this year they’re getting an extra third-round pick and an extra fifth-round pick as compensatory selections.

This year the Packers have again not signed away any players whose previous contract expired, but they have lost four players, center Evan Dietrich-Smith, receiver James Jones, defensive lineman C.J. Wilson and offensive lineman Marshall Newhouse. That means the Packers will almost certainly do well when the compensatory picks are passed out a year from now.

Building through the draft and declining to overspend in free agency would be a smart strategy even if the NFL didn’t have a compensatory pick system to reward frugal teams. But when compensatory picks are added to the equation, it’s easy to see why Thompson declines to go after free agents. The Packers have been successful this way. It’s surprising more teams haven’t copied them.


May not be popular here but Dorsey is doing exactly the same thing Thompson and Ozzie Newsome are doing, stockpile draft picks and let UFAs get overpaid elsewhere.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Messier

I hear you. The playoff game just made me sick. Though, I was putting it all on the defenses shoulders. I was driving back from my in-laws, and listening helplessly as our lead got whittled away. Ugh.

I said in the game thread once they got behind, we are going to now see what Alex Smith is made of. I wasn't discounting the great game he already had, but I was hoping he would be Joe Montana. I mistakenly started a thread about it when I was buzzed.

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Like I told someone yesterday, that's one of the few benefits of being cynical about the Chiefs.

I wasn't shocked or outraged when they lost. It was a little hard to believe they were losing the lead as it was happening but I walked away from the game with no feeling whatsoever. I just went about my day.

I told my wife at the end of the 3rd quarter the Chiefs were going to lose.

[SDChiefs]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You're so tired of it you can't resist responding.

Sheep.

youre an idiot. ive stopped reading several threads because of your stupidity. then i respond once because im tired of it and im a sheep. nice. why dont you pull your head out of you ass and grow some common sense and maybe a little book smarts might go a long way too.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by philfree

Are you sure you're looking at all the info? Did DV trade for Trent Green because Lamar said he couldn't draft a QB? Same goes for Pioli and Cassel. After they drafted DT and made the playoffs do you think Marty and Carl wanted to bring in a rookie QB? To me it's pretty obvious that the regimes in place since Carl was hired have made their own choices.

This!!
Maybe they haven't drafted a qb because there hasn't been one that they've wanted to take at the position they were drafting. Maybe their boards didn't have them ranked as high as fans that are desperate for a elite qb. I think we're fine with Alex Smith. If the FO and coach have a qb on their board when we draft that they feel is gonna be a better qbotf than what we currently have then I say take him. But don't draft a qb too early because you're desperate for one!!

[philfree]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Phil, I told you why DV was hired. Re Read the post please. It was common knowledge at the time that Carl was on the hot seat and he begged his old buddy DV out of retirement. The Chiefs had to give up a 1st round pick to get DV. Remember?

You are really trying to bait me now suggesting anyone other than our beloved Derrick Thomas, RIP. The Chiefs, Carl Peterson actually did take a QB with their second pick, the second QB taken in the draft behind Aikman. Wait for it, Mike Elkins!

As I said earlier in this thread, Carl tried twice early in his tenure with 2nd round picks.

Yeah you told me. I don't think Carl was really on the hot seat and I heard or read where Carl said that before he hired Marty that he was trying to get DV to come out of retirement and coach the Chiefs. DV was always his choice for HC. And I'm not baiting anyone I'm just saying that I don't believe that's there an edict from the Hunts saying we don't draft QBs in the 1st round. I don't believe that experienced HCs with plenty of job opportunity's would except the job under such circumstance. I can see why some folks have come to believe that there's some kind of edict but I don't.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by SDChiefs

youre an idiot. ive stopped reading several threads because of your stupidity. then i respond once because im tired of it and im a sheep. nice. why dont you pull your head out of you ass and grow some common sense and maybe a little book smarts might go a long way too.

Book smarts? You can't even punctuate sentences correctly.

We could have left this to just Chiefs smack but since you want to go there, by all means, let's do this...

[temper11]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

This!!
Maybe they haven't drafted a qb because there hasn't been one that they've wanted to take at the position they were drafting. Maybe their boards didn't have them ranked as high as fans that are desperate for a elite qb. I think we're fine with Alex Smith. If the FO and coach have a qb on their board when we draft that they feel is gonna be a better qbotf than what we currently have then I say take him. But don't draft a qb too early because you're desperate for one!!

This is my belief as well. If a guy you like is there, then take him. If not, don't take one just for the sake of taking one. Chiefs were just unlucky last year to be 1.1 when the best projected talent on the board were a couple of tackles.

[SDChiefs]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Book smarts? You can't even punctuate sentences correctly.

We could have left this to just Chiefs smack but since you want to go there, by all means, let's do this...

lol. if you say so. dont forget to come across that youre not bitching. although you are. constantly. the thread doesnt even have to be about the chiefs and you still bitch about them. cp "my mom got raped last night." you: "i wish dorsey would get raped. he says he builds through the draft and he mad a ****ing trade. hes a liar and he deserves to burn in hell for it. and i dont give a shit about the chiefs but i troll this message board anyways. oh btw im not bitching."

[temper11]

Originally Posted by SDChiefs

youre an idiot. ive stopped reading several threads because of your stupidity. then i respond once because im tired of it and im a sheep. nice. why dont you pull your head out of you ass and grow some common sense and maybe a little book smarts might go a long way too.

so much for my "let's just all get along speech"! Gee, I really thought that was going to work too. Hmm.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by SDChiefs

the thread doesnt even have to be about the chiefs and you still bitch about them.

I've never done this. Literally.

Originally Posted by SDChiefs

hes a liar and he deserves to burn in hell for it.

And I've never said anything even remotely resembling this.

I get it. You're 14. You love the Chiefs. You have a hard time with school and girls, so they're all you have.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by temper11

so much for my "let's just all get along speech"! Gee, I really thought that was going to work too. Hmm.

I was prepared to let it go. Just so you know. You'll notice that I haven't argued any further with you and I was even cordial with Messier.

[SDChiefs]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I've never done this. Literally.



And I've never said anything even remotely resembling this.

I get it. You're 14. You love the Chiefs. You have a hard time with school and girls, so they're all you have.

i was paraphraing you not quoting. im not 14 and this has nothing to do with love or hate for the chiefs. this has to do with hate for stupid people who cant understand simple concepts. and not only that they try to argue that they are right and your stupid cause you can understand it. you belong with black bob, knowmo and r8ters in the top teirs of trolls. just to help you understand this even though you probably wont, by they i mean you.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by SDChiefs

i was paraphraing you not quoting. im not 14 and this has nothing to do with love or hate for the chiefs. this has to do with hate for stupid people who cant understand simple concepts. and not only that they try to argue that they are right and your stupid cause you can understand it. you belong with black bob, knowmo and r8ters in the top teirs of trolls. just to help you understand this even though you probably wont, by they i mean you.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by philfree

Yeah you told me. I don't think Carl was really on the hot seat

I thought that was pretty common knowledge, wasn't he in going into year 13 of his 5 year plan?

Originally Posted by philfree

and I heard or read where Carl said that before he hired Marty that he was trying to get DV to come out of retirement and coach the Chiefs.

First time I had heard that, or else I forgot about it

Originally Posted by philfree

DV was always his choice for HC. And I'm not baiting anyone I'm just saying that I don't believe that's there an edict from the Hunts saying we don't draft QBs in the 1st round. I don't believe that experienced HCs with plenty of job opportunity's would except the job under such circumstance. I can see why some folks have come to believe that there's some kind of edict but I don't.

Thank you for that. I have stated all of my reasons why I believe it, no point in rehashing them. I do remember Clark saying, when Herm took over IIRC, that he wanted to draft and develop a QB. I believed him then.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

I thought that was pretty common knowledge, wasn't he in going into year 13 of his 5 year plan?First time I had heard that, or else I forgot about it.

Carl Talked about it a bunch that first offseason after getting DV.

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Thank you for that. I have stated all of my reasons why I believe it, no point in rehashing them. I do remember Clark saying, when Herm took over IIRC, that he wanted to draft and develop a QB. I believed him then.

Herm had a man crush on Matty Ice. I remember him spending a bunch of time with him on his pro day (or combine. Not sure which) and gushing about him...

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Carl Talked about it a bunch that first offseason after getting DV.

The cobwebs are clearing a little with Phil's and your help. Do you remember that it was a "win now" situation? I loved watching that team and Vermeil, but I think it is inappropriate for anyone to use Dick Vermeils name in the same paragraph as "draft."

Originally Posted by Rausch

Herm had a man crush on Matty Ice. I remember him spending a bunch of time with him on his pro day (or combine. Not sure which) and gushing about him...

I was hoping he would draft Leinert as well. As much as I hated Herm, he put a lot of talent on this team.