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Old 03-09-2012, 09:25 PM  
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Redskin trade for the number 2 pick Goodbye RGIII

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Major scoopage: Redskins have agreed to a trade w Rams for #2 pick of draft. Rams and Skins swap (cont) http://tl.gd/gbhvr8



Major scoopage: Redskins have agreed to a trade w Rams for #2 pick of draft. Rams and Skins swap first rounders this yr w Rams also getting 2 future #1s and additional picks. Story coming on fox sports dot com




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Washington Redskins traded three first-round draft picks and a second-round pick to St. Louis for second overall pick … http://say.ly/frx1yvb

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Old 03-10-2012, 02:01 AM   #211
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They "traded" away 3 1sts and 1 2nd in exchange for 1 first.

I know it's difficult, but in your world, it would be like trading 3 disgusting bitch hos and a bag of H for 1 decent bitch ho and a car with the VIN removed.

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Old 03-10-2012, 02:02 AM   #212
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Posted at 11:47 PM ET, 03/09/2012
Washington Redskins acquire No. 2 pick in NFL Draft in trade with St. Louis Rams

Redskins pay high price to get their QB

Well, that settles that, then. Count the Washington Redskins out on Peyton Manning and count them in, big on Robert Griffin III. Adam Schefter reports that Washington has agreed to trade its next three first-round picks plus this year's second-round pick to the St. Louis Rams in exchange for the No. 2 overall pick in this year's draft. With Indianapolis expected to take Andrew Luck No. 1 overall and the Redskins desperate for a quarterback, we are left to presume they will use that pick to draft Griffin, the Heisman Trophy winner out of Baylor, to be their quarterback of the future.

It isn't surprising that the Redskins are trading up for Griffin. They wanted him badly, and there are few if any teams in the league that need help at quarterback more than they do. What's shocking is the price. To move up four spots in this year's draft, they are trading away first-rounders in 2013 and 2014, as well as a second-rounder in 2012. It feels like too much, and it puts a heck of a lot of pressure on Griffin. They're basically going to draft him and tell him, "All right. It's all yours. But we don't have a first-round pick in either of the next two years with which to help you out."

Read here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...1Q2R_blog.html
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Old 03-10-2012, 02:05 AM   #213
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our world may hurt - but this is a brutal last game of the season win to forget about.

It's been clear for some time that the Minnesota Vikings wouldn't be in position to trade their No. 3 overall pick to a team that wanted to draft Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III. Griffin's performance in last month's NFL scouting combine sealed his spot as the second-best player in the draft, and on Friday night the St. Louis Rams traded the No. 2 pick to the Washington Redskins for a bounty that will make Vikings fans rue the day their team dropped from contention for the No. 2 pick themselves.

As you assuredly know, the Vikings were on track to have the NFL's second-worst record before they defeated the Redskins 33-26 in Week 16. (Tailback Adrian Peterson also suffered a major knee injury in that game, an unrelated but no less serious event.) After Friday night's trade, we now know the difference between winning and losing that game was two future first-round picks and a second-rounder.

That's the premium the Redskins paid the Rams to swap first-rounders in 2012, presumably to draft Griffin. With Andrew Luck and Griffin expected to go 1-2 in the draft, it's far less likely that a market will emerge for the Vikings' spot at No. 3. If it does, the bounty will be nothing close to what the Rams got from the Redskins.

Obviously, I'm not suggesting the Vikings should have done anything other than play to win against the Redskins. I'm not a proponent of tanking. In the end, that game was just another chapter in the star-crossed history of this franchise. The Vikings will do well to draft USC left tackle Matt Kalil at No. 3 next month, but they missed out on an opportunity to jump-start their rebuilding process with a rare volume of high draft picks in the coming years. Such is life.
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Old 03-10-2012, 02:08 AM   #214
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As usual, your out-of-the-box thinking may be on to something, Ms. Dylan.

Many of us scientists and blood donors have been curious why they would do this deal so early. However, if there is a risk that the Skins were to be caught up in BountyGate, that might explain it.

It would be much more difficult for the NFL to take away a pick that's already been traded.

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Posted at 11:47 PM ET, 03/09/2012
Washington Redskins acquire No. 2 pick in NFL Draft in trade with St. Louis Rams

Redskins pay high price to get their QB

Well, that settles that, then. Count the Washington Redskins out on Peyton Manning and count them in, big on Robert Griffin III. Adam Schefter reports that Washington has agreed to trade its next three first-round picks plus this year's second-round pick to the St. Louis Rams in exchange for the No. 2 overall pick in this year's draft. With Indianapolis expected to take Andrew Luck No. 1 overall and the Redskins desperate for a quarterback, we are left to presume they will use that pick to draft Griffin, the Heisman Trophy winner out of Baylor, to be their quarterback of the future.

It isn't surprising that the Redskins are trading up for Griffin. They wanted him badly, and there are few if any teams in the league that need help at quarterback more than they do. What's shocking is the price. To move up four spots in this year's draft, they are trading away first-rounders in 2013 and 2014, as well as a second-rounder in 2012. It feels like too much, and it puts a heck of a lot of pressure on Griffin. They're basically going to draft him and tell him, "All right. It's all yours. But we don't have a first-round pick in either of the next two years with which to help you out."

Read here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...1Q2R_blog.html
Could somebody tell me what the net loss in first round picks will be for the Redskins, Does that look like 3 first round picks or does that look like 2 first rounders and a second...
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Could somebody tell me what the net loss in first round picks will be for the Redskins, Does that look like 3 first round picks or does that look like 2 first rounders and a second...
Alright, if they weren't trading away 3 first rounders, then they would have two picks in the first round in 2012, wouldn't they?
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Old 03-10-2012, 02:10 AM   #217
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Once again the Chiefs are a day late and a dollar short... Now lets sit back and watch you guys **** up with FLYNN now

63 million under the cap and they can't even bring in a QB for you guys...
I think its safe to assume Flynn is going to Miami.

As for the 63, its actually 37 when everything is paid out. Then you have to subtract Routt and Bowe. The point of us having a ton of money and it not being enough to attract Manning still stands, but its not like we could offer double anybody else.
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I totally understand and I can empathize with the argument.

On the other hand, some might respond that, with Hudson, Baldwin, and Berry, we are spreading the risk. Of course, we're unable to realize the alternative rewards, as well. But, it isn't like we can just trot down to the neighborhood quarterback tree and pluck one of those bastards off a low limb.

All I'm saying is that, each and every day, it's becoming more and more clear to me that NFL teams are going to have to develop alternative methods and means for acquiring (or creating) franchise quarterbacks. The Chiefs need to be thinking in those terms, in my view. Mainly because we aren't getting Luck. Or RGIII. Or, most likely, Manning. Or anybody freaking else at that level of quality. And, when you can't buy it, steal it, find it, or trip on it while walking down the street, you have to build it.

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Very true. The Chiefs have done nothing but look for a shortcut. The ironic thing is the Chiefs thinking they play it smart/safe. Trying the bandaid is actually the worst thing you can do.
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Alright, if they weren't trading away 3 first rounders, then they would have two picks in the first round in 2012, wouldn't they?
Read it again real slow....
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Read it again real slow....
ok, so they are not trading away their 2012 1st rounder?
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they are trading away first-rounders in 2013 and 2014 and SWAPPING 1ST ROUNDERS THIS YEAR along with a 2nd.
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they are trading away first-rounders in 2013 and 2014 and SWAPPING 1ST ROUNDERS THIS YEAR along with a 2nd.
you're using the word "swapping" like it doesn't mean trading.
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ok, so they are not trading away their 2012 1st rounder?

No because that would take their 2nd pick in the draft and RGIII away if they did, which was the whole point of trading in the first place.
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Giving up 3 to gain 1. They are losing a net total of 2. Its pretty simple.
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Technically they are trading 3 but realistically they are giving up 2 and just switching the other 1. The third they are "sacrificing" is actually being improved by 4 spots.
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