Glenn Dorsey's role in the 3-4

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

I seem to remember reports before he was drafted that said DT in a 4-3 and DE in a 3-4, not that it's a lock, but it would seem to be more possible than naysayers are allowing us to believe...

I remember him saying he would put on weight to play NT in a 3-4.

[HC_Chief]

Originally Posted by RustShack

I remember him saying he would put on weight to play NT in a 3-4.

He is heavier than Arizona's Darnell Dockett, who played both 1 & 3 gap.

I'm not writing off Dorsey until I see how he plays in the defense. IMO how has the upper-body strength to play NT (he could chuck pretty much any NFL C on their ass), the question is with his lower-body strength & whether/not he can learn the proper technique(s) to play the position.

[tboss27]

Originally Posted by HC_Chief

He is heavier than Arizona's Darnell Dockett, who played both 1 & 3 gap.

I'm not writing off Dorsey until I see how he plays in the defense. IMO how has the upper-body strength to play NT (he could chuck pretty much any NFL C on their ass), the question is with his lower-body strength & whether/not he can learn the proper technique(s) to play the position.

I won't write him off either, all the experts had this guy at the top of their draft boards last year in terms of talent. He's going to have to play end though, no way he's big enough to play NT. I just don't understand insisting on switching to 3-4 when three of your former first rounders don't fit well in that scheme. DJ, Hali, and Dorsey will all have to learn new positions now, not something I'm thrilled about my best three players in the front 7 having to do.

[Chief3188]

Originally Posted by tboss27

I won't write him off either, all the experts had this guy at the top of their draft boards last year in terms of talent. He's going to have to play end though, no way he's big enough to play NT. I just don't understand insisting on switching to 3-4 when three of your former first rounders don't fit well in that scheme. DJ, Hali, and Dorsey will all have to learn new positions now, not something I'm thrilled about my best three players in the front 7 having to do.

Well to be fair our so called best 3 players on the front 7 had a combined 4.5 sacks which ironically is only half a sack more than the guy we just traded for had last season.

[HC_Chief]

Originally Posted by Chief3188

Well to be fair our so called best 3 players on the front 7 had a combined 4.5 sacks which ironically is only half a sack more than the guy we just traded for had last season.

You mean the broken-down OLD GEEZER from NE? What's his name again? Surely there must be a thread....

[Chief3188]

Originally Posted by HC_Chief

You mean the broken-down OLD GEEZER from NE? What's his name again? Surely there must be a thread....

lol - Oh well man I think guys are making a mountain out of a mole hill with the Vrabel trade.

We need leadership and Vrabel can provide it. As long as we did not give anything more than a 5th round pick and don't make a habit out of trading our picks for over the hill players I am fine with helping our team transition to the 3-4 with this minor maneuver.

[Mr. Kotter]

I think some people doubt Dorsey's ability to cosistently play two-gap defense. Frankly, I don't really get why either. I think he has more than enough tools that he can be disruptive, and if nothing else...he should be able to often occupy two blockers. Either way, he's done his job.

Here's a decent article that has bearing on the whole discussion:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5...:-Mind-the-Gap

[huskerdooz]

Originally Posted by HC_Chief

He is heavier than Arizona's Darnell Dockett, who played both 1 & 3 gap.

I'm not writing off Dorsey until I see how he plays in the defense. IMO how has the upper-body strength to play NT (he could chuck pretty much any NFL C on their ass), the question is with his lower-body strength & whether/not he can learn the proper technique(s) to play the position.

I've actually heard it the other way around, that he has the lower body to play nose tackle but not the upper body strength. Tank Tyler has just the opposite, the upper body strength needed to play the position but the lower body needs work.