Chiefs AFC West UDFA Grades - Page 2

Quesadilla Joe · 05-01-2009, 02:47 PM

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Denver Broncos

LB Braxton Kelley, Kentucky
LB Jeff Schweiger, San Jose State
OT Marcus Gordon, Kentucky State
CB D.J. Johnson, Jackson State
RB Kestahn Moore, Florida
WR Travis Shelton, Temple
DE Rulon Davis, Cal-Berkeley
WR Nate Swift, Nebraska
DT Chris Baker, Hampton
WR David Grimes, Notre Dame
OT Stanley Bryant, E. Carolina
LB Lee Robinson, Alcorn State
DT Everette Pedescleaux, N. Iowa
TE Marquez Branson, Central Arkansas
CB Dominique Johnson, Jackson State
WR Lucas Taylor, Tennessee
CB Tony Carter, Florida State

Here’s your top UDFA class. They didn’t address the front seven as much as most people wanted them to in the draft, but Rulon Davis is a born 3-4 DE and an Iraq tested marine, Pedescleaux has tons of upside, Robinson could end up being a beast of an ILB if he’s smart enough to handle the position, and Chris Baker is one of the few guys in the draft class who has the frame to play 3-4 NT. I also think Tony Carter will stick as a nickel/dime corner, and Nate Swift is an underrated, hard-nosed wideout.

Grade: A+

Kansas City Chiefs

CB Jackie Bates, Hampton
DB Ricky Price, Oklahoma State
WR Taurus Johnson, South Florida
DE Bobby Greenwood, Alabama
DB Londen Fryar, W. Michigan
DE Pierre Walters, Eastern Illinois
WR Taurus Johnson, South Florida
LB Jovan Belcher, Maine
LB Bobby Abare, Yale

The Chiefs actually got some decent OLB prospects in Belcher and Walters, and a speedy corner in Bates, but I would expect a rebuilding team to do better, especially when they only spent three picks on defense even though they’re changing schemes.

Grade: D

Oakland Raiders

WR Chris Johnson, Tennessee State
LB Jerome Boyd, Oregon
WR Keith Miller, Southern Utah
DE Desmond Bryant, Harvard
LB David Nixon, Brigham Young
WR Shawn Bayes, Kent State
LB Frantz Joseph, Florida Atlantic

Not much to look at except Joseph, who has tons of heart and natural violence in his game - he’ll make the team and challenge to start eventually.

Grade: C+ (The plus is for Joseph)

San Diego Chargers

OL Ben Muth, Stanford
WR Greg Carr, Florida State
LB Anthony Felder, Cal-Berkeley
FB Bill Rentmeester, Wisconsin
WR Jeremy Childs, Boise State
DB C.J. Spillman, Marshall
TE Jerimiah Wurzbacher, North Dakota State
TE Kory Sperry, Colorado State
OT Sam Allen, Grand Valley
LB James Holt, Kansas
DT Rashaad Jackson, Clemson
RB Curtis Brinkley, Syracuse
LB Darry Beckwith, L.S.U.
OL Ryan McDonald, Illinois
WR Charly Martin, West Texas A&M
OT Dan Gay, Baylor
CB Wopamo Osaisai, Stanford
WR Rod Smith, Auburn

A variety of guys that could turn to gold (well ok, aluminum or a useful, but less valuable metal), including a solid, but unspectacular safety (Spillman), an athletic but one-dimensional receiving TE (Sperry), a top ILB that surprisingly fell out of the draft (Beckwith), and a gritty, experienced 3-4 ILB (Felder)

Grade: A

Denver Dave · 05-01-2009, 03:59 PM

Our scout team can beat yours, bitches! The Broncos are going to lead all 32 NFL teams in 4th quarter preseason scoring.

KCChiefsMan · 05-01-2009, 04:02 PM

lame, if you get one good player in a UDFA class, it's an A+++++++

Mile High Mania · 05-01-2009, 04:08 PM

And, just like everything else... grades really can't be given a week after the draft.

Denver has a boat load of new players, so it will be very interesting to see the lineup with this new look team.

**RNR** · 05-01-2009, 04:14 PM

LB Frantz Joseph, Florida Atlantic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNstliEo4Hs

bandwagonjumper · 05-01-2009, 04:53 PM

Lets not forget if a player doesnt want come to the Chiefs there is nothing there can unless vastly operpay. If I were a player I rather would go undrafted and take my chances as an UDFA than being drafted in the sixth or seventh round.

**the Talking Can** · 05-01-2009, 05:11 PM

now i understand

you traded Cutler for a great class of street trash

brilliant!

RJ · 05-01-2009, 05:16 PM

Oh no, there's some guy with a web site who thinks the Broncos have assembled a better collection of undrafted players than the Chiefs!

Damn you Scott!!

kstater · 05-01-2009, 05:20 PM

The Broncos have roughly 50 RB's on the roster, yet found enough room to sign another.

easymobee · 05-01-2009, 05:22 PM

All aspects are important. Rod Smith and Priest Holmes are 2 UDFAs that pop immediately to mind.
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chiefs1111 · 05-01-2009, 05:24 PM

They grade rookie free agent signings now?? JFC

**alanm** · 05-01-2009, 05:42 PM

I see we signed Irving Fryars kid.

**the Talking Can** · 05-01-2009, 05:49 PM

lexicon:

the only homers allowed on the planet are donko homers...

Micjones · 05-01-2009, 05:52 PM

Undrafted players DO make a difference on NFL rosters.
I can think of a few that've helped this organization over the years.
Talent evaluation is talent evaluation.
Find good football players every way possible.

KCwolf · 05-01-2009, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denver Dave

Our scout team can beat yours, bitches! The Broncos are going to lead all 32 NFL teams in 4th quarter preseason scoring.

NICE.....your scout team RULES!! There should be a Scout team playoff and Super Bowl.....Denver would OWN the world!

In all honesty...some good pickups there BTW.

teedubya · 05-01-2009, 06:41 PM

sweet, we got Taurus Johnson twice... he better be REALLY good.

WR Taurus Johnson, South Florida
DE Bobby Greenwood, Alabama
DB Londen Fryar, W. Michigan
DE Pierre Walters, Eastern Illinois
WR Taurus Johnson, South Florida

05-01-2009, 02:47 PM
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3928675	AFC West UDFA Grades http://draftguys.com/index.php/artic..._grades_-_afc/ Denver Broncos LB Braxton Kelley, Kentucky LB Jeff Schweiger, San Jose State OT Marcus Gordon, Kentucky State CB D.J. Johnson, Jackson State RB Kestahn Moore, Florida WR Travis Shelton, Temple DE Rulon Davis, Cal-Berkeley WR Nate Swift, Nebraska DT Chris Baker, Hampton WR David Grimes, Notre Dame OT Stanley Bryant, E. Carolina LB Lee Robinson, Alcorn State DT Everette Pedescleaux, N. Iowa TE Marquez Branson, Central Arkansas CB Dominique Johnson, Jackson State WR Lucas Taylor, Tennessee CB Tony Carter, Florida State Here’s your top UDFA class. They didn’t address the front seven as much as most people wanted them to in the draft, but Rulon Davis is a born 3-4 DE and an Iraq tested marine, Pedescleaux has tons of upside, Robinson could end up being a beast of an ILB if he’s smart enough to handle the position, and Chris Baker is one of the few guys in the draft class who has the frame to play 3-4 NT. I also think Tony Carter will stick as a nickel/dime corner, and Nate Swift is an underrated, hard-nosed wideout. Grade: A+ Kansas City Chiefs CB Jackie Bates, Hampton DB Ricky Price, Oklahoma State WR Taurus Johnson, South Florida DE Bobby Greenwood, Alabama DB Londen Fryar, W. Michigan DE Pierre Walters, Eastern Illinois WR Taurus Johnson, South Florida LB Jovan Belcher, Maine LB Bobby Abare, Yale The Chiefs actually got some decent OLB prospects in Belcher and Walters, and a speedy corner in Bates, but I would expect a rebuilding team to do better, especially when they only spent three picks on defense even though they’re changing schemes. Grade: D Oakland Raiders WR Chris Johnson, Tennessee State LB Jerome Boyd, Oregon WR Keith Miller, Southern Utah DE Desmond Bryant, Harvard LB David Nixon, Brigham Young WR Shawn Bayes, Kent State LB Frantz Joseph, Florida Atlantic Not much to look at except Joseph, who has tons of heart and natural violence in his game - he’ll make the team and challenge to start eventually. Grade: C+ (The plus is for Joseph) San Diego Chargers OL Ben Muth, Stanford WR Greg Carr, Florida State LB Anthony Felder, Cal-Berkeley FB Bill Rentmeester, Wisconsin WR Jeremy Childs, Boise State DB C.J. Spillman, Marshall TE Jerimiah Wurzbacher, North Dakota State TE Kory Sperry, Colorado State OT Sam Allen, Grand Valley LB James Holt, Kansas DT Rashaad Jackson, Clemson RB Curtis Brinkley, Syracuse LB Darry Beckwith, L.S.U. OL Ryan McDonald, Illinois WR Charly Martin, West Texas A&M OT Dan Gay, Baylor CB Wopamo Osaisai, Stanford WR Rod Smith, Auburn A variety of guys that could turn to gold (well ok, aluminum or a useful, but less valuable metal), including a solid, but unspectacular safety (Spillman), an athletic but one-dimensional receiving TE (Sperry), a top ILB that surprisingly fell out of the draft (Beckwith), and a gritty, experienced 3-4 ILB (Felder) Grade: A
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