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Old 02-27-2013, 02:44 PM   #1
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Hit songs?

Yeah, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and a few others. Grunge was a fad that lasted only a few years because the music and lyrics were so depressing. There's not much market for that anymore.
heh, yea i guess there are not many bands or solo artists for that matter still making hit songs after 20 years. Peoples tastes change over time.
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Old 02-27-2013, 02:46 PM   #2
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heh, yea i guess there are not many bands or solo artists for that matter still making hit songs after 20 years. Peoples tastes change over time.
No, you're missing the point: Grunge had it's tiny window and it closed rather quickly. Yet, you can name bands from the 70's and 80's that are still out on the road, putting out albums and having tons of success.

Grunge was truly a fad.
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Old 02-27-2013, 02:50 PM   #3
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No, you're missing the point: Grunge had it's tiny window and it closed rather quickly. Yet, you can name bands from the 70's and 80's that are still out on the road, putting out albums and having tons of success.

Grunge was truly a fad.
Ironically, Grunge was every bit as faddish as Hair Metal.
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:00 AM   #4
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No, you're missing the point: Grunge had it's tiny window and it closed rather quickly. Yet, you can name bands from the 70's and 80's that are still out on the road, putting out albums and having tons of success.

Grunge was truly a fad.
Cobain knew it lol.
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:13 PM   #5
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No, you're missing the point: Grunge had it's tiny window and it closed rather quickly. Yet, you can name bands from the 70's and 80's that are still out on the road, putting out albums and having tons of success.

Grunge was truly a fad.
That must be why Pearl Jam sold out Wrigley field in 45 minutes.
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That must be why Pearl Jam sold out Wrigley field in 45 minutes.
We're talking about the "movement" not one particular band
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:46 AM   #7
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That must be why Pearl Jam sold out Wrigley field in 45 minutes.
I have loved Pearl Jam from the beginning. I think the "grunge" label was always dumb. They are simply a great rock band. Are there people who still consider them grunge? Are there people who think grunge is a thing?
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Are there people who think grunge is a thing?
Only people in their fifties.

'Grunge' was laughable as soon as they started trotting that stupid ****ing word around.

No one my age used that word, unless we were making fun of old people.

'My aunt said 'grunge', hahahah!! Then I said I didn't want gravy on my mashed potatoes, and she said 'that's okay, you're 'alternative'. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!'

But no one who was in the moment ever went 'think I'll listen to some 'grunge' as they reach for the Mudhoney CD...ever.

Like, it was just rock music to us. There was no 'grunge movement' - all that shit's in hindsight. Geffen records was pushing Nirvana's Nevermind just as hard as they pushed GN'R and Aerosmith back then, played them all on the same radio stations. The compartmentalization within the industry didn't happen until later, after Nevermind went to number one and they realized the MARKET that was available.
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Geffen records was pushing Nirvana's Nevermind just as hard as they pushed GN'R and Aerosmith back then, played them all on the same radio stations. The compartmentalization within the industry didn't happen until later, after Nevermind went to number one and they realized the MARKET that was available.


Guns 'N' Roses wasn't pushed at all, initially. Geffen felt that Rock City Angels (which at one point featured Johnny Depp on guitar) was the "IT" band, not GNR. "Appetite" cost $90k to record and until they broke through via touring, there was very little promotional money spent on them.

Furthermore, Geffen knew that market was "available" or they wouldn't have hired Butch Vig to transform Nirvana's sound, put money into their video, etc. Plus, Geffen had the reputation of being on the cutting edge in regards to new bands and sounds, so radio stations had no issue playing their releases.
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Guns 'N' Roses wasn't pushed at all, initially. Geffen felt that Rock City Angels (which at one point featured Johnny Depp on guitar) was the "IT" band, not GNR. "Appetite" cost $90k to record and until they broke through via touring, there was very little promotional money spent on them.

Furthermore, Geffen knew that market was "available" or they wouldn't have hired Butch Vig to transform Nirvana's sound, put money into their video, etc. Plus, Geffen had the reputation of being on the cutting edge in regards to new bands and sounds, so radio stations had no issue playing their releases.
in 1991 and 1992, when 'grunge' was huge and Nirvana was hitting #1 (you know, contexually the period of time we're talking about) Geffen was pushing GN'R like they (hehehe) were going out of style.

But hey, you were in the know in '86 when Zutaut brought them to Geffen, I'm sure you were at the first meeting.
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