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Old 09-23-2013, 04:39 PM  
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Started the thread yesterday, so I figured I'd give it another shot.
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Old 09-24-2013, 08:38 AM   #571
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The thing that's amazing about Perez is how athletic he is defensively for being 270 pounds. That was an incredible tag. And for him to hold on to the baseball with the catcher's glove was amazing. He's amazing.
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Old 09-24-2013, 08:58 AM   #572
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I missed extra innings last night, but saw this.
You cannot run on Alex Gordon.

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In the slo-mo replay it looks like Salvy missed the tag, but that was from one camera angle. I'm good with the ump's call though.
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:58 AM   #573
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Possible, but I think if they are serious about contending in 2014 (and they'd better be), you have to add one more veteran SP to provide insurance for those guys.

If that's Santana (and honestly, the only way I see him coming back is if he accepts the Royals' qualifying offer), OK.

Personally, I think it's more likely KC goes looking for the NEXT Santana in FA. There are some definite options for that... Josh Johnson, Phil Hughes, etc.

I'd also bring back Chen as the swing guy if I can. It would be nice to have him waiting in the bullpen as the long guy, ready to step in should someone get hurt or be ineffective.

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Gotta have some insurance if you go with the young guys.
Don't sleep on Smith as a starter.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:35 AM   #574
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I'm less concerned about our starting rotation than I am about our gaping holes (offensively) at 3rd base, 2nd base, and DH. Don't suppose there is a 30+ HR guy available out there that can play 2nd or 3rd base?
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:36 AM   #575
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I don't know if Chen will re-sign if we put him back in the bullpen again. He said in the paper this AM he likes KC and wants to stay, but Scott Boras is his agent. That usually does not bode well for KC...
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:40 AM   #576
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In the slo-mo replay it looks like Salvy missed the tag, but that was from one camera angle. I'm good with the ump's call though.
No, you can see that Salvy definitely got him on the elbow as his hand was coming down. Watch Salvy's glove and you'll see it move as it contacts the elbow.

Great call by the umpire.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:54 AM   #577
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Doesn't matter, the ball was right there. If Seager is going to act like a bitch and throw a tantrum arguing he beat the tag by a whisper, he's missing the point. And being a pathetic loser.



Just like the moron in the 12th throwing another tantrum when he was called out. Look: the ump was ready to go home. He wasn't gonig to watch guys take endless borderline pitches and check swing-their-way to 1st. He'd had enough. And so had the fans. Swing the bat or GTFO
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:57 AM   #578
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Doesn't matter, the ball was right there. If Seager is going to act like a bitch and throw a tantrum arguing he beat the tag by a whisper, he's missing the point. And being a pathetic loser.



Just like the moron in the 12th throwing another tantrum when he was called out. Look: the ump was ready to go home. He wasn't gonig to watch guys take endless borderline pitches and check swing-their-way to 1st. He'd had enough. And so had the fans. Swing the bat or GTFO
Agree with all of this.

The Mariners were being little bitches last night and should be thankful for the 4 or 5 balls called against Holland that were strikes in that inning.

If they really want to bitch, they should blame their manager for leaving a lefty in to face Salvy when a RHP was ready to go.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:58 AM   #579
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In the slo-mo replay it looks like Salvy missed the tag, but that was from one camera angle. I'm good with the ump's call though.
This version of the play has a bunch more replays: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index...nt_id=30891155

In the last one you can clearly see the runner's hand knock Perez's glove downward right before he touches home plate. I bet the ump saw the exact same thing, which is why he was so emphatic with the call.
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Old 09-24-2013, 11:10 AM   #580
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No, you can see that Salvy definitely got him on the elbow as his hand was coming down. Watch Salvy's glove and you'll see it move as it contacts the elbow.

Great call by the umpire.
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Old 09-24-2013, 11:19 AM   #581
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I'm less concerned about our starting rotation than I am about our gaping holes (offensively) at 3rd base, 2nd base, and DH. Don't suppose there is a 30+ HR guy available out there that can play 2nd or 3rd base?
Nope, there really isn't 30-HR plus power on the market. And what pop there is available is situated at OF spots.

Curtis Granderson
Carlos Beltran
Mike Morse (LF-only, really, and is terrible there)

Those are really the only 30-HR threats on there, and they're probably 20-HR hitters at the K.

Shin Soo Choo
Hunter Pence
Marlon Byrd
Chris Young

Also offer some pop, but it's more the 20-HR variety.

If the Royals are going to spend on a bat (and not trade for one), I still think the best bet is probably Beltran. Limit his PT (3/4 starts, lot of late-inning defensive replacements as long as the game isn't close).

But he's going to be expensive and could be made a qualifying offer by the Cardinals.

Granderson is intriguing... his power numbers would go down in the K, no doubt, but Maxwell would be an awfully nice 4th guy to pair with Granderson.
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:42 PM   #582
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I really like Shin Soo Choo.

There aren't hardly any decent pitching free agents this year unless you like the Cleveland Indian guys.
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:45 PM   #583
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I really like Shin Soo Choo.

There aren't hardly any decent pitching free agents this year unless you like the Cleveland Indian guys.
Me too, but:

1. He's 31
2. He's gonna get PAID.
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Isn't there a bunch of money coming off the books?
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How about Nelson Cruz? Yeah, he's a bio-guy. But he could be a 30 HR guy, no?
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