Chiefs Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall - Page 19

Frankie · 01-10-2013, 01:12 PM

duncan,

I actually thought about Seattle's draft position after I posted my post. You are right. Their 1 this year is essentially a high 2 and their 2 a high 3. And their 1 next year will likely be like a high 2. Given those parameters I would want even more from them then the aforementioned 1, 1 and 2. But that would make it even more impossible for Seattle to accept this trade. So the whole point is moot.

However, if Reid thinks highly enough of Flynn to part with say our 3rd for him I would be willing to differ to his judgement and evaluation knowing full well that it is better than any on this board including myself. I know it would almost look like Piolli/Cassel.2, but I would take Reid's eval of QBs ten times before Piolli's. Especially if it's backed up by someone like Dorsey's.

My only condition as a fan is Reid stays open minded about drafting another QB this year or next, if Flynn shows signs of not being THE GUY. His "Leaving egos at the door" comment is somewhat encouraging in that department.

duncan_idaho · 01-10-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

duncan,

I actually thought about Seattle's draft position after I posted my post. You are right. Their 1 this year is essentially a high 2 and their 2 a high 3. And their 1 next year will likely be like a high 2. Given those parameters I would want even more from them then the aforementioned 1, 1 and 2. But that would make it even more impossible for Seattle to accept this trade. So the whole point is moot.

However, if Reid thinks highly enough of Flynn to part with say our 3rd for him I would be willing to differ to his judgement and evaluation knowing full well that it is better than any on this board including myself. I know it would almost look like Piolli/Cassel.2, but I would take Reid's eval of QBs ten times before Piolli's. Especially if it's backed up by someone like Dorsey's.

My only condition as a fan is Reid stays open minded about drafting another QB this year or next, if Flynn shows signs of not being THE GUY. His "Leaving egos at the door" comment is somewhat encouraging in that department.

Bringing in Flynn as the placeholder is not a problem as long as they draft a QB early. I don't think he can be had for a 3rd round pick, so it's probably all moot.

**the Talking Can** · 01-10-2013, 01:14 PM

flynn is a bigger fraud than cassel...jesus

pull your heads out

Frankie · 01-10-2013, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

flynn is a bigger fraud than cassel...jesus

pull your heads out

I guess you missed all the "IFs" in the argument.

**the Talking Can** · 01-10-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

I guess you missed all the "IFs" in the argument.

there's no 'if' in "flynn is a fraud"

Jerm · 01-10-2013, 01:31 PM

Kiper is on the Joeckel bandwagon...just said that's who we should pick #1. Him or Moore...

What a goof.

ILChief · 01-10-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

Kiper is on the Joeckel bandwagon...just said that's who we should pick #1. Him or Moore...

What a goof.

He's a moran

Bewbies · 01-10-2013, 02:36 PM

Frankie is one of those guys that only sees a good enough QB when he knows we can't get em.

ct · 01-10-2013, 03:08 PM

At this point i'm really hoping team(s) fall in love with joeckel and want to trade up and get him. i'm full in favor of moving back a few spots and taking geno/tyler later.

This is all pre-combine adjustments, and IF they were looking like a slide down the top10 on draft day.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-10-2013, 03:09 PM

I'll take Flynn for a swap of 5th round picks in the 2013 draft.

Outside of that, no ****ing way.

RunKC · 01-10-2013, 03:14 PM

Wow Taylor Lewan and Jake Mathews are staying in school, so now Luke Joeckel's value just went up.

Would not be surprised to see several teams trying to move up for this guy and trade with us, like the Rams.

htismaqe · 01-10-2013, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Wow Taylor Lewan and Jake Mathews are staying in school, so now Luke Joeckel's value just went up.

Would not be surprised to see several teams trying to move up for this guy and trade with us, like the Rams.

The Rams had the #2 pick.

RunKC · 01-10-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The Rams had the #2 pick.

Before Fisher got there. The bust LT Smith is gone now.

htismaqe · 01-10-2013, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Before Fisher got there. The bust LT Smith is gone now.

Um, read what you wrote again.

The Rams traded out of the NUMBER TWO slot last year.

Marco Polo · 01-10-2013, 04:56 PM

ESPN's Mel Kiper acknowledged on SportsCenter Thursday that Notre Dame ILB Manti Te'o is unlikely to be a top-five draft pick.

Kiper was recommending the Chiefs take Te'o first overall during the season, but he's snapped back to reality a bit. "(Inside linebackers) typically don't go in the top-five overall," Kiper conceded. "1993, Marvin Jones went fourth overall to the Jets. That very rarely happens. You see 8-11 for the middle linebackers last 10-12 years, have come off the board. If he gets in -- Te'o does -- into that 10-15 range, it could allow a team like the Baltimore Ravens, looking for the heir apparent to Ray Lewis, to jump up and get a guy like Manti Te'o." Kiper is now recommending the Chiefs take Texas A&M LT Luke Joeckel at No. 1.

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Frankie Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	duncan, I actually thought about Seattle's draft position after I posted my post. You are right. Their 1 this year is essentially a high 2 and their 2 a high 3. And their 1 next year will likely be like a high 2. Given those parameters I would want even more from them then the aforementioned 1, 1 and 2. But that would make it even more impossible for Seattle to accept this trade. So the whole point is moot. However, if Reid thinks highly enough of Flynn to part with say our 3rd for him I would be willing to differ to his judgement and evaluation knowing full well that it is better than any on this board including myself. I know it would almost look like Piolli/Cassel.2, but I would take Reid's eval of QBs ten times before Piolli's. Especially if it's backed up by someone like Dorsey's. My only condition as a fan is Reid stays open minded about drafting another QB this year or next, if Flynn shows signs of not being THE GUY. His "Leaving egos at the door" comment is somewhat encouraging in that department.
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Marco Polo Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 41°59.4′N 87°39.6'W Casino cash: $5708908	ESPN's Mel Kiper acknowledged on SportsCenter Thursday that Notre Dame ILB Manti Te'o is unlikely to be a top-five draft pick. Kiper was recommending the Chiefs take Te'o first overall during the season, but he's snapped back to reality a bit. "(Inside linebackers) typically don't go in the top-five overall," Kiper conceded. "1993, Marvin Jones went fourth overall to the Jets. That very rarely happens. You see 8-11 for the middle linebackers last 10-12 years, have come off the board. If he gets in -- Te'o does -- into that 10-15 range, it could allow a team like the Baltimore Ravens, looking for the heir apparent to Ray Lewis, to jump up and get a guy like Manti Te'o." Kiper is now recommending the Chiefs take Texas A&M LT Luke Joeckel at No. 1.
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