Movies and TV Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation - Page 2

**Anyong Bluth** · 07-26-2015, 01:16 PM

I didn't see a thread for it, and it opens Friday.

I really enjoyed 4. I thought they did a nice job of retooling things to keep it entertaining with some good laughs and a pretty good plot that had very good set action pieces.

Anyway, I just saw this. You'll see in the trailer a part where Cruise is holding onto the side of a plane taking off.

You figure it is just a green screen effect done in post production. Nope.

I'll hand it to Cruise on this one. It takes balls to hang onto the side of an airplane taking off as it climbs and is going 185+ mph.

https://youtu.be/gOW_azQbOjw

https://youtu.be/F-qBD17wwrQ

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/25/entert...ise/index.html

Wade Eastwood's mission was to dangle megastar Tom Cruise from the outside of an aircraft in midflight -- dressed in a business suit.
Even for the veteran stunt coordinator, it sounded over-the-top.

"It's one of those conversations where everyone looks at each other and goes 'oh f**k,'" Eastwood said. "And Tom smiles and says 'it's going to be fun.'"

Two months later, Cruise would be running atop the wing of an Airbus A400M, clutching its side as it rose into the sky above the Wittering airbase in Northern England.

But the scene, which has become the signature of "Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation" and viewed by millions on YouTube before the film's Friday release, almost never happened. Airbus rejected the ambitious proposal, Eastwood says, because the aircraft used in the scene is new and was still being tested.

Their counteroffer, according to Eastwood: "Maybe when it's stopped on the ground you can look out the window."

Cruise wasn't flashing that signature grin.

After brainstorming other options for the plane, Cruise told Eastwood "I just want to be on the outside of that plane, go back and pitch them again."

Tom Cruise: 'Most dangerous thing I've ever done'
Tom Cruise: 'Most dangerous thing I've ever done' 02:03
This time, Eastwood — a pilot himself — drew up plans that would ensure Cruise would face as little danger as possible. They included a plan for getting the star inside the aircraft in an emergency, which involved a safety harness worn under his suit and a special rig just inside the plane's door.
"We did a lot of tests with dummies and everything went according to plan," Eastwood said. "The next thing was the plane landed in England and they [Airbus] literally threw the keys at us and said, 'OK.'"
But all wasn't OK — yet. Cruise still had to act while braving 185-mph winds, turning even small particles into dangerous debris.
The actor was opposed to wearing goggles, which would prevent the fear in his face from coming through on screen. Instead, the crew put a protective coating over his eye balls, similar to thick contact lenses, keeping his eyes safe from small debris and allowing them to stay open through the punishing wind.
The next problem was Cruise's safety harness. Though it was keeping him alive, its constricting nature was preventing him from using his body to act.
"I feel like a puppet," Eastwood recalls Cruise saying. "I won't be able to sell the fear."
The crew added slack to the line, meaning that if Cruise lost his grip on the side of the plane he actually would have fallen several feet before the harness saved him.
"[In the scene] his feet slip off the plane and he really is holding on for his life," Eastwood said. The handles Cruise clutches are actually panels used to cut down on turbulence as paratroopers exit the military aircraft.
Confident that the stunt was as safe as possible, Eastwood says there was only one thing that still scared him: birds. No safety measure could stop a bird strike, but they minimized the risk by dispersing birds from around the airport and putting a spotter in the cockpit.
Then came the take-off, which posed another threat to Cruise. To get the shot the plane had to rise at an angle more akin to an airshow take off.
"The shot was far more effective seeing the runway shrink," Eastwood said. "This meant a high G-load on Tom," he added, referring to the gravitational force that adds weight and makes it harder to maintain balance.
Cruise and his crew repeated the stunt eight times to get the shots that made it into the film. No one was hurt, and Eastwood calls it one of his "all time greats."
But there was little time to celebrate. There were more stunts to come, like one that requires Cruise to hold his breath under water for six minutes.
"Time to start panicking about the next one," Eastwood said.

ThaVirus · 07-27-2015, 11:01 AM

What say you, Deej. Jason Bourne vs Craig's James Bond vs Ethan Hunt in a battle royale.

Who comes out on top?

**Anyong Bluth** · 07-27-2015, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I was just having this conversation with some friends of mine a few weeks ago.

If you go back to the mid-90s when the MI series came out, a good argument can be made that MI has been the best of the genre between Bond, Bourne and MI.

Obviously Skyfall is the best of the lot, but holy shit were those later Brosnan movies terrible. The World Is Not Enough could have killed the franchise and Die Another Day was almost as bad (thankfully Rosamund Pike was around to save that one). Niether Bourne nor MI has had nearly as bad a flop as those 3 Brosnan pieces o' crap.

If MI5 is as good as the last one, I think you can put the MI franchise ahead of Bond and Bourne as the best 'spy' franchise of the last 20 years. Bourne's lost too much steam and the Renner version was okay, but not good enough (similar to MI2 really). Mission Impossible is just a really underrated franchise.

The funny part of it is the MI franchise got mothballed for a while not because it wasn't successful or making good money at the box office. In their infinite wisdom, they were displeased it didn't make even more money.

Idiots.

A happy byproduct of this though probably was no rush to get another made by x release date, so some shitty script wasn't forced for them to make do with it.

Like I said, the last one blew me away by comparison to my expectations were for what it would be. Is it Kubrick? No, but it's a well done international spy action movie movie that hits on all cylinders and really have some glaring weakness from 1st to last frame.

If we are going to discuss spy characters, I am still waiting for someone to script a treatment and direct a film in the vein of North by Northwest. Not a remake. An homage to its distinct feel that is all its own within the realm of the genre.

**Anyong Bluth** · 07-27-2015, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Brosnan is a strange one. He embodies everything I think James Bond should be. He's got the look, he's suave, debonair..

But **** me, his movies are real pieces of shit.

Because he should have been Bond back in the 80's when he was 1st considered. His 1st wife died some time around then. Thus, we got Timothy Dalton.

**Anyong Bluth** · 07-27-2015, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

The MIs aren't without some great shit, though. The original MI scene where he was on the rope trying to avoid triggering the sensors in the floor with the music and the scene from the Kremlin (I think that was the third one) are classic.

You're right even now a still shot of him hanging over the floor is considered an iconic Hollywood shot.

RobBlake · 07-27-2015, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

What say you, Deej. Jason Bourne vs Craig's James Bond vs Ethan Hunt in a battle royale.

Who comes out on top?

hand to hand? bond would get his ass beat. Ethan would give Jason a run for his money but only for so long

DJ's left nut · 07-27-2015, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

What say you, Deej. Jason Bourne vs Craig's James Bond vs Ethan Hunt in a battle royale.

Who comes out on top?

Well Bourne's a trained killer whereas Bond and Hunt are supposed to avoid detection first. So yeah, hand to hand I'm going Bourne in a walk. However, if you essentially dispatch all 3 of them a simultaneous message that says "you are responsible for killing the other two....GO", I think I'd put my money on Hunt. He has just as many toys as Bond but his planning ability puts him ahead. Bourne might get to him but I suspect that Hunt has some tricks up his sleeve in terms of avoiding detection or early warning.

Besides, the correct answer is John Wick. Baba Yaga don't !@#$ing play...

ThaVirus · 07-27-2015, 02:34 PM

A city-wide, three-way manhunt could be a pretty tight deal, now that I think about it.

Hunt's got the tech and stealth capabilities but he generally works with a team. I'd knock him down a notch for that.

Bourne is the most lethal, resourceful as all hell and basically a ghost. If entire world governments can't find him in their own backyards (and sometimes in their offices), I'm not sure one or two individuals could do so either. Give the guy access to equal resources and he basically becomes a reaper.

Bond is probably the weakest link, although it pains me to say it. Craig's Bond is rash, brazen and entirely too headstrong. He'd likely rush into this with little to no foresight and get slaughtered quickly. Plus he's pretty unpolished as a fighter. He tends to receive as much as he gives when throwing down in fisticuffs.

I'd probably say Bourne>>>Hunt>>>>>>>>Bond in a kill or be killed situation.

ThaVirus · 07-27-2015, 02:36 PM

Wick's 99.9999999999% headshot accuracy would render this scenario moot. Bourne, Hunt and Bond together might have a chance of taking down the boogeyman.

DJ's left nut · 07-27-2015, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

A city-wide, three-way manhunt could be a pretty tight deal, now that I think about it.

Hunt's got the tech and stealth capabilities but he generally works with a team. I'd knock him down a notch for that.

Bourne is the most lethal, resourceful as all hell and basically a ghost. If entire world governments can't find him in their own backyards (and sometimes in their offices), I'm not sure one or two individuals could do so either. Give the guy access to equal resources and he basically becomes a reaper.

Bond is probably the weakest link, although it pains me to say it. Craig's Bond is rash, brazen and entirely too headstrong. He'd likely rush into this with little to no foresight and get slaughtered quickly. Plus he's pretty unpolished as a fighter. He tends to receive as much as he gives when throwing down in fisticuffs.

I'd probably say Bourne>>>Hunt>>>>>>>>Bond in a kill or be killed situation.

Yeah, Bond's an afterthought here.

But Hunt gets his team in my scenario - that's where his tactical brilliance shines. If he doesn't get his team, then yeah, Bourne takes that one.

**Anyong Bluth** · 07-27-2015, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Well Bourne's a trained killer whereas Bond and Hunt are supposed to avoid detection first. So yeah, hand to hand I'm going Bourne in a walk. However, if you essentially dispatch all 3 of them a simultaneous message that says "you are responsible for killing the other two....GO", I think I'd put my money on Hunt. He has just as many toys as Bond but his planning ability puts him ahead. Bourne might get to him but I suspect that Hunt has some tricks up his sleeve in terms of avoiding detection or early warning.

Besides, the correct answer is John Wick. Baba Yaga don't !@#$ing play...

Wick would kill them all armed only with a gum wrapper.

ThaVirus · 07-27-2015, 03:18 PM

I haven't viewed Cruise's action flicks the same since I found out he's 5'7". Unless he's hiding Earl Campbell-sized thighs, he probably weighs no more than 155.

It's tough to watch him one-shot groups of 200 lbs trained killers.

DJ's left nut · 07-27-2015, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Because he should have been Bond back in the 80's when he was 1st considered. His 1st wife died some time around then. Thus, we got Timothy Dalton.

It wasn't his wife - it was NBC (iirc).

They had an option on Remington Steele. Brosnan had been chosen as the new Bond and was scheduled to be announced. The rumors had already picked up speed and because he was now 'Bond', Brosnan's name suddenly became hot. Remington Steele had been cancelled but the option hadn't expired yet and when Brosnan became a name about town, NBC picked up the Option and killed his ability to get out of the deal.

Eon moved on when they didn't want to wait for the option period to expire.

My recollection is that they didn't even end up bringing back the series (or maybe it was a movie deal). In either event, Brosnan got absolutely !@#$ed by the whole deal.

lawrenceRaider · 07-27-2015, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I haven't viewed Cruise's action flicks the same since I found out he's 5'7". Unless he's hiding Earl Campbell-sized thighs, he probably weighs no more than 155.

It's tough to watch him one-shot groups of 200 lbs trained killers.

It's a movie. You are supposed to suspend your sense of disbelief when you start watching.

ThaVirus · 07-27-2015, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

It's a movie. You are supposed to suspend your sense of disbelief when you start watching.

I know. It's just distracting.

Daniel Craig is only like 5'9" or 5'10", I believe. He's pretty short also. Idk, 5'7" just seems really short.

**Anyong Bluth** · 07-27-2015, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I know. It's just distracting.

Daniel Craig is only like 5'9" or 5'10", I believe. He's pretty short also. Idk, 5'7" just seems really short.

So he's or they're short. You're not trying to date the guy and worried his height limits your shoe options. Say goodbye to heels!

07-26-2015, 01:16 PM
Anyong Bluth Deus ambulans inter homines Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Casino cash: $9659340	Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation I didn't see a thread for it, and it opens Friday. I really enjoyed 4. I thought they did a nice job of retooling things to keep it entertaining with some good laughs and a pretty good plot that had very good set action pieces. Anyway, I just saw this. You'll see in the trailer a part where Cruise is holding onto the side of a plane taking off. You figure it is just a green screen effect done in post production. Nope. I'll hand it to Cruise on this one. It takes balls to hang onto the side of an airplane taking off as it climbs and is going 185+ mph. https://youtu.be/gOW_azQbOjw https://youtu.be/F-qBD17wwrQ http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/25/entert...ise/index.html Wade Eastwood's mission was to dangle megastar Tom Cruise from the outside of an aircraft in midflight -- dressed in a business suit. Even for the veteran stunt coordinator, it sounded over-the-top. "It's one of those conversations where everyone looks at each other and goes 'oh f**k,'" Eastwood said. "And Tom smiles and says 'it's going to be fun.'" Two months later, Cruise would be running atop the wing of an Airbus A400M, clutching its side as it rose into the sky above the Wittering airbase in Northern England. But the scene, which has become the signature of "Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation" and viewed by millions on YouTube before the film's Friday release, almost never happened. Airbus rejected the ambitious proposal, Eastwood says, because the aircraft used in the scene is new and was still being tested. Their counteroffer, according to Eastwood: "Maybe when it's stopped on the ground you can look out the window." Cruise wasn't flashing that signature grin. After brainstorming other options for the plane, Cruise told Eastwood "I just want to be on the outside of that plane, go back and pitch them again." Tom Cruise: 'Most dangerous thing I've ever done' Tom Cruise: 'Most dangerous thing I've ever done' 02:03 This time, Eastwood — a pilot himself — drew up plans that would ensure Cruise would face as little danger as possible. They included a plan for getting the star inside the aircraft in an emergency, which involved a safety harness worn under his suit and a special rig just inside the plane's door. "We did a lot of tests with dummies and everything went according to plan," Eastwood said. "The next thing was the plane landed in England and they [Airbus] literally threw the keys at us and said, 'OK.'" But all wasn't OK — yet. Cruise still had to act while braving 185-mph winds, turning even small particles into dangerous debris. The actor was opposed to wearing goggles, which would prevent the fear in his face from coming through on screen. Instead, the crew put a protective coating over his eye balls, similar to thick contact lenses, keeping his eyes safe from small debris and allowing them to stay open through the punishing wind. The next problem was Cruise's safety harness. Though it was keeping him alive, its constricting nature was preventing him from using his body to act. "I feel like a puppet," Eastwood recalls Cruise saying. "I won't be able to sell the fear." The crew added slack to the line, meaning that if Cruise lost his grip on the side of the plane he actually would have fallen several feet before the harness saved him. "[In the scene] his feet slip off the plane and he really is holding on for his life," Eastwood said. The handles Cruise clutches are actually panels used to cut down on turbulence as paratroopers exit the military aircraft. Confident that the stunt was as safe as possible, Eastwood says there was only one thing that still scared him: birds. No safety measure could stop a bird strike, but they minimized the risk by dispersing birds from around the airport and putting a spotter in the cockpit. Then came the take-off, which posed another threat to Cruise. To get the shot the plane had to rise at an angle more akin to an airshow take off. "The shot was far more effective seeing the runway shrink," Eastwood said. "This meant a high G-load on Tom," he added, referring to the gravitational force that adds weight and makes it harder to maintain balance. Cruise and his crew repeated the stunt eight times to get the shots that made it into the film. No one was hurt, and Eastwood calls it one of his "all time greats." But there was little time to celebrate. There were more stunts to come, like one that requires Cruise to hold his breath under water for six minutes. "Time to start panicking about the next one," Eastwood said.
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ThaVirus Settle this once and forever Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $2062369	Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation A city-wide, three-way manhunt could be a pretty tight deal, now that I think about it. Hunt's got the tech and stealth capabilities but he generally works with a team. I'd knock him down a notch for that. Bourne is the most lethal, resourceful as all hell and basically a ghost. If entire world governments can't find him in their own backyards (and sometimes in their offices), I'm not sure one or two individuals could do so either. Give the guy access to equal resources and he basically becomes a reaper. Bond is probably the weakest link, although it pains me to say it. Craig's Bond is rash, brazen and entirely too headstrong. He'd likely rush into this with little to no foresight and get slaughtered quickly. Plus he's pretty unpolished as a fighter. He tends to receive as much as he gives when throwing down in fisticuffs. I'd probably say Bourne>>>Hunt>>>>>>>>Bond in a kill or be killed situation.
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ThaVirus Settle this once and forever Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $2062369	Wick's 99.9999999999% headshot accuracy would render this scenario moot. Bourne, Hunt and Bond together might have a chance of taking down the boogeyman. Last edited by ThaVirus; 07-27-2015 at 02:50 PM..
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ThaVirus Settle this once and forever Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $2062369	I haven't viewed Cruise's action flicks the same since I found out he's 5'7". Unless he's hiding Earl Campbell-sized thighs, he probably weighs no more than 155. It's tough to watch him one-shot groups of 200 lbs trained killers.
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