Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 357

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

**BigMeatballDave** · 06-04-2013, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

And he's automatically our second best outfielder.

Better than Cain?

ChiefsCountry · 06-04-2013, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

do the St. Louis Rams have "Arizona Cardinals appreciations night" every year?

They have a St. Louis Cardinals Hall of Fame like the Chiefs do with the Ring of Honor. Mixes Cardinal players like Larry Wilson, Dan Dierdorf, Jackie Smith etc. along with Rams players.

**DeezNutz** · 06-04-2013, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Better than Cain?

Dude has been in a death spiral over the last couple of weeks. Slug now just barely above his OBP, which is known in the league as Hosmering.

ChiefsCountry · 06-04-2013, 01:52 PM

Also the Brewers honor the Milwaukee Braves at their stadium as well. They have a statue and give away Hank Aaron Braves stuff. That is the closest situation to what happened in Kansas City. Also the Mariners honor the Seattle Pilots. Its not that uncommon really for teams to have days to honor the old teams that moved away.

Infidel Goat · 06-04-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Dude has been in a death spiral over the last couple of weeks. Slug now just barely above his OBP, which is known in the league as Hosmering.

If we are going by recent history, just keep in mind Berry's triple slash line in AAA (Toledo) this year: .168/.278/.234

Berry is not one of our top five outfielders currently. Sad, but true.

Prison Bitch · 06-04-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Quick trivia: match the player with his career OPS.

(1) Angel Berroa,
(2) Neifi Perez,
(3) Alcides Escobar

(a) .656 (b) .672 (c) .677

Bump.

siberian khatru · 06-04-2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Toadkiller

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/new...c&ymd=20130604

The Kansas City Royals today claimed outfielder Quintin Berry on waivers from the Detroit Tigers and immediately optioned him to Triple-A Omaha. Berry, 28, is a left-handed hitter who spent a large part of last season on the Detroit roster, hitting .258 in 94 games (75-for-291) with 44 runs scored, 10 doubles, six triples, two home runs and 29 RBI. The speedster also swiped 21 bases without being caught. A fifth round pick of the Phillies in 2006 out of San Diego State, Berry has also been in the San Diego, New York Mets and Cincinnati organizations prior to joining the Tigers. He has hit .168 in 49 games for Toledo (AAA) in the Tigers' chain this year with 15 stolen bases and only two caught stealing.

Seems like Dyson redux. I suppose it could mean Dyson's ankle is worse than originally expected and he might miss another month. Otherwise, I'm not sure how much it impacts the ML roster, as both Dyson and Berry are LH batters. It's not like you would drop Frenchy and platoon Berry, especially with Lough also a lefty.

Maybe he's just AAA filler to replace Paulo Orlando.

penbrook · 06-04-2013, 02:16 PM

With the Berry signing I see a Frenchy release coming.

**gblowfish** · 06-04-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Also the Brewers honor the Milwaukee Braves at their stadium as well. They have a statue and give away Hank Aaron Braves stuff. That is the closest situation to what happened in Kansas City. Also the Mariners honor the Seattle Pilots. Its not that uncommon really for teams to have days to honor the old teams that moved away.

The Atlanta Braves never kept the Milwaukee Brewers from getting to the AL Championship for seven straight years. Big difference.

And the Brewers are actually the old Seattle Pilots. Again, they're in a different league from the Mariners now.

Oakland and KC don't like each other. At all, in any way, shape or form.
We should keep it that way.

siberian khatru · 06-04-2013, 02:25 PM

The Royals AAA and AA look like the Forbidden Zone in "Planet of the Apes":

http://www.royalsreview.com/2013/6/4...6/the-pipeline

**gblowfish** · 06-04-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

With the Berry signing I see a Frenchy release coming.

Frenchy will not be DFA'ed until all the "Frenchy Quarter" T-shirts are given out. And the Royals own promotional schedule lists "Frenchy Quarter" nights all the way into September...

So it does not bode well.

Yes, David Glass would keep a .222 hitter in the starting lineup over some T-Shirts.

SPATCH · 06-04-2013, 02:28 PM

Bob Dutton ‏@Royals_Report 5m
By listing C Salvy Perez in tonight's lineup, #Royals must make a space-clearing roster move.

**gblowfish** · 06-04-2013, 02:28 PM

They'll send that catcher behind Kottaras down to Omaha.

siberian khatru · 06-04-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

With the Berry signing I see a Frenchy release coming.

A sane person would think: 1) Dyson's about to come back; 2) Frenchy will be DFA'd; 3) Lough will stay up as the 4th OF; 4) Berry replaces Lough in AAA.

But the Royals aren't sane.

siberian khatru · 06-04-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula

Bob Dutton ‏@Royals_Report 5m
By listing C Salvy Perez in tonight's lineup, #Royals must make a space-clearing roster move.

I would assume Moore goes down.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1630308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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