My draft wish... - Page 2

htismaqe · 01-03-2006, 10:43 AM

Everybody has already talked about Marcus McNeil, I think he'd be an awesome pick, but...

The guy I really covet is Michael Huff from Texas. He's played both CB and S in college, but at 6'1", 205, I'd be looking at him to take over Greg Wesley's spot. He's an electric playmaker and has a real nose for the ball.

He looks like a guy that could go 6-7 picks ahead of us, but because of his tweener status, he could slip.

Herzig · 01-03-2006, 10:56 AM

Maybe in the 2nd..not the 1st.

Claude Wroten DT 6’3 290 LSU
By: Robert Davis

After a standout JuCo career, Claude Wroten came to LSU and had immediate success on the field. As a junior, he was All SEC after finishing the year with 44 tackles, 12 for loss, and six sacks. This season, he tallied 45 tackles, 9.5 for loss, and five sacks.

Wroten is one of the best penetrating interior linemen in this draft. He gets an excellent jump off the ball, and has the quickness to get through the line and make plays behind the line of scrimmage. Wroten also displays excellent athleticism and agility to change directions and run down plays. He’s one of the best athletes among defensive tackles in the draft.

His game is quickness and penetration, so if he does not get that initial step, he can be neutralized. Wroten lacks the pure bulk to hold up at the point on a consistent basis.

Claude Wroten has only played two years at the D1 level, but he’s been a consistent performer since stepping on to the field. He has made a name for himself and is a very good prospect for the 2006 NFL Draft. With his playmaking ability and athleticism, he could hear his name called early come April. Wroten will probably hear his name called somewhere in the Top 40 of the draft.

htismaqe · 01-03-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Herzig

Mock you.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2006/mock2006.html

My problem with Claude Wroten is that he's small, doesn't have the frame to add weight, and reportedly struggles with lower body strength. His biggest strength is 1-gap rushing the passer. He's a complimentary player and IMO, that's not what we need.

I look at Jacksonville with Henderson and Stroud. We have Henderson (Ryan Sims), we need Marcus Stroud.

jspchief · 01-03-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

So let me get this stright, you guys want another converted saftie on this team?

I don't think you understand the history behind Huff. He's not a tweener.

htismaqe · 01-03-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

So let me get this stright, you guys want another converted saftie on this team?

Um, no.

Did you miss the part where I said I'd like him to replace GREG WESLEY?

htismaqe · 01-03-2006, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Herzig

This one cracks me up

http://www.insidetheeagles.com/2006mockdraft.htm

A tight end...

Out of UCLA no less...

Appropriate...

htismaqe · 01-03-2006, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

STOP ****ING SAYING TWEENER!!

Sorry, Saul, don't shoot the messenger!

I don't consider him a tweener, I'm just passing on what most people consider the "knock" on him...

Herzig · 01-03-2006, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

My problem with Claude Wroten is that he's small, doesn't have the frame to add weight, and reportedly struggles with lower body strength. His biggest strength is 1-gap rushing the passer. He's a complimentary player and IMO, that's not what we need.

I look at Jacksonville with Henderson and Stroud. We have Henderson (Ryan Sims), we need Marcus Stroud.

How about this guy?

Jesse Mahelona DT 6’2 297 Tennessee
By: Robert Davis

Jesse Mahelona left Hawaii to play JuCo ball at Orange Coast College in California, and immediately made a name for himself. Despite playing only two games as a sophomore because of a broken ankle, he had every major program after him, and Tennessee won out for his services. As a junior in 2004, Mahelona made a major impact on the Vols interior line. He had 42 tackles with 18.5 of them for loss, and 5 sacks. Prior to this season, he was named to the Playboy All-American list.

Mahelona is the ideal 4-3 defensive tackle. He has a great burst off the line, and displays the ability to consistently penetrate the line. For a 300lber, he also shows great closing speed and the ability to chase down plays from behind. What makes Mahelona special is that he combines that penetration ability with great natural strength and the ability to hold his ground at the point of attack. While he is best suited for the 4-3, he could play in a 3-4 alignment on the edge.

Other than lacking ideal height for a defensive tackle, there isn’t a whole lot to knock in Mahelona’s game. He doesn’t have a great deal of experience, as he only played one season at JuCo before transferring to Tennessee.

There are a few defensive tackles near the top of the draft that could crack the Top 15. Mahelona has as good a shot as anyone to achieve that. For a team that wants someone to disrupt plays from the inside, Mahelona is the best tackle for them. But with a few other tackles that have better natural size, and they may be placed higher on some teams boards.

Brock · 01-03-2006, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

So let me get this stright, you guys want another converted saftie on this team?

WTF is a saftie?

htismaqe · 01-03-2006, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Herzig

How about this guy?

Jesse Mahelona DT 6’2 297 Tennessee
By: Robert Davis

Jesse Mahelona left Hawaii to play JuCo ball at Orange Coast College in California, and immediately made a name for himself. Despite playing only two games as a sophomore because of a broken ankle, he had every major program after him, and Tennessee won out for his services. As a junior in 2004, Mahelona made a major impact on the Vols interior line. He had 42 tackles with 18.5 of them for loss, and 5 sacks. Prior to this season, he was named to the Playboy All-American list.

Mahelona is the ideal 4-3 defensive tackle. He has a great burst off the line, and displays the ability to consistently penetrate the line. For a 300lber, he also shows great closing speed and the ability to chase down plays from behind. What makes Mahelona special is that he combines that penetration ability with great natural strength and the ability to hold his ground at the point of attack. While he is best suited for the 4-3, he could play in a 3-4 alignment on the edge.

Other than lacking ideal height for a defensive tackle, there isn’t a whole lot to knock in Mahelona’s game. He doesn’t have a great deal of experience, as he only played one season at JuCo before transferring to Tennessee.

There are a few defensive tackles near the top of the draft that could crack the Top 15. Mahelona has as good a shot as anyone to achieve that. For a team that wants someone to disrupt plays from the inside, Mahelona is the best tackle for them. But with a few other tackles that have better natural size, and they may be placed higher on some teams boards.

The only thing about Mahelona is mentioned in the last paragraph - his stock is all over the place right now. Could be a high 2nd-rounder, could be a 1st-rounder. His stock will get more clear after the comine I think.

**Mr. Kotter** · 01-03-2006, 11:20 AM

I like this guy...

Rodrique Wright

Height: 6-5 | Weight: 305 | 40-Time: 5.00

Official Bio

Strengths:
Big with a large frame that he could easily pack some additional pounds onto...An excellent natural athlete...Very quick and explosive with a burst...Strong and can hold his ground...Has great range and makes plays all over the field...Will penetrate and cause problems in the backfield...Has a lot of experience...Might be able to play defensive end in a 3-4 scheme...Still has a lot of upside.

Weaknesses:
An underachiever who doesn't always play up to his physical ability...Is not a hard worker...Technique is lacking...Will play too high at times...Allows blockers to lock on...Motor and stamina are very questionable...Has some durability concerns and dealt with a nagging angle injury for most of his junior season.

Notes:
Cousin of NFL defensive lineman Cedric Woodard and his uncle Elmo was a first-round draft pick of the Kansas City Chiefs in 1971...Talented player who looked like a future elite pro prospect early in his career before leveling off...Has the tools to be great but must be more consistent to fulfill that potential.

OR
Defensive Tackle | Senior | Florida St. Brodrick Bunkley
Height: 6-3 | Weight: 284 | 40-Time: 5.05

Official Bio

Strengths:
Very solid and compactly built...Extremely strong...Holds his ground and will not get pushed around...Has tremendous balance...Is very quick and explosive...Does a great job of penetrating and makes a lot of plays in the opponents backfield...Has a motor that never stops...Plays with good leverage...Locates the ball well...Gets a great push up the middle...Had an outstanding senior campaign.

Weaknesses:
Does not have great size or bulk...Durability is a concern and he has a history of knee and ankle problems...Has not been the hardest worker throughout his career...His lack of size might become more of a problem at the next level...Is on the ground too much...Was arrested for stealing a video game in 2003.

Notes:
Tore the ACL in his left knee while in high school and then tore the MCL in the same knee in 2002...Potential nose tackle...Could end up being one of the best defensive tackles the Noles have produced, which is really saying something.

**Saulbadguy** · 01-03-2006, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Sorry, Saul, don't shoot the messenger!

I don't consider him a tweener, I'm just passing on what most people consider the "knock" on him...

I don't hate the fact that he may be undersized, or oversized, depending on the position he is slated to play...but I just hate that ****ing word.

teedubya · 01-03-2006, 11:22 AM

to be quite frank, if we dont go OT or DT, ill be a bit upset... as those are our two areas of main need.

jspchief · 01-03-2006, 11:26 AM

NFLdraftcountdown has a new mock up today, and they have us taking Brodrick Bunkley. I'm not impressed.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sco...ckbunkley.html

**Bowser** · 01-03-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

So let me get this stright, you guys want another converted saftie on this team?

No, I want to draft a safety that actually PLAYS safety. If he ends up being a corner in our dime packages, then so be it.

Wesley can be the 2006 version of Jerome Woods.

Herzig · 01-03-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ali Chi3fs

to be quite frank, if we dont go OT or DT, ill be a bit upset... as those are our two areas of main need.

I could live with a high profile WR...but I agree with you.

01-03-2006, 10:43 AM
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	My draft wish... Everybody has already talked about Marcus McNeil, I think he'd be an awesome pick, but... The guy I really covet is Michael Huff from Texas. He's played both CB and S in college, but at 6'1", 205, I'd be looking at him to take over Greg Wesley's spot. He's an electric playmaker and has a real nose for the ball. He looks like a guy that could go 6-7 picks ahead of us, but because of his tweener status, he could slip.
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01-03-2006, 10:56 AM	#16
Herzig Wooooooo Pig Soooooiiiie!!! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northwest Arkansas Casino cash: $9984900	Maybe in the 2nd..not the 1st. Claude Wroten DT 6’3 290 LSU By: Robert Davis After a standout JuCo career, Claude Wroten came to LSU and had immediate success on the field. As a junior, he was All SEC after finishing the year with 44 tackles, 12 for loss, and six sacks. This season, he tallied 45 tackles, 9.5 for loss, and five sacks. Wroten is one of the best penetrating interior linemen in this draft. He gets an excellent jump off the ball, and has the quickness to get through the line and make plays behind the line of scrimmage. Wroten also displays excellent athleticism and agility to change directions and run down plays. He’s one of the best athletes among defensive tackles in the draft. His game is quickness and penetration, so if he does not get that initial step, he can be neutralized. Wroten lacks the pure bulk to hold up at the point on a consistent basis. Claude Wroten has only played two years at the D1 level, but he’s been a consistent performer since stepping on to the field. He has made a name for himself and is a very good prospect for the 2006 NFL Draft. With his playmaking ability and athleticism, he could hear his name called early come April. Wroten will probably hear his name called somewhere in the Top 40 of the draft. __________________
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01-03-2006, 11:20 AM	#25
Mr. Kotter The Dude Abides Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Dakota Country Casino cash: $5855285	I like this guy... Rodrique Wright Height: 6-5 \| Weight: 305 \| 40-Time: 5.00 Official Bio Strengths: Big with a large frame that he could easily pack some additional pounds onto...An excellent natural athlete...Very quick and explosive with a burst...Strong and can hold his ground...Has great range and makes plays all over the field...Will penetrate and cause problems in the backfield...Has a lot of experience...Might be able to play defensive end in a 3-4 scheme...Still has a lot of upside. Weaknesses: An underachiever who doesn't always play up to his physical ability...Is not a hard worker...Technique is lacking...Will play too high at times...Allows blockers to lock on...Motor and stamina are very questionable...Has some durability concerns and dealt with a nagging angle injury for most of his junior season. Notes: Cousin of NFL defensive lineman Cedric Woodard and his uncle Elmo was a first-round draft pick of the Kansas City Chiefs in 1971...Talented player who looked like a future elite pro prospect early in his career before leveling off...Has the tools to be great but must be more consistent to fulfill that potential. OR Defensive Tackle \| Senior \| Florida St. Brodrick Bunkley Height: 6-3 \| Weight: 284 \| 40-Time: 5.05 Official Bio Strengths: Very solid and compactly built...Extremely strong...Holds his ground and will not get pushed around...Has tremendous balance...Is very quick and explosive...Does a great job of penetrating and makes a lot of plays in the opponents backfield...Has a motor that never stops...Plays with good leverage...Locates the ball well...Gets a great push up the middle...Had an outstanding senior campaign. Weaknesses: Does not have great size or bulk...Durability is a concern and he has a history of knee and ankle problems...Has not been the hardest worker throughout his career...His lack of size might become more of a problem at the next level...Is on the ground too much...Was arrested for stealing a video game in 2003. Notes: Tore the ACL in his left knee while in high school and then tore the MCL in the same knee in 2002...Potential nose tackle...Could end up being one of the best defensive tackles the Noles have produced, which is really saying something. __________________ "I've always said I worry about legacy and winning rings more than making money at this moment...We see what's going on around the league, but at the same time, I'll never do anything that's going to hurt us from keeping the great players around me.”
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01-03-2006, 11:22 AM	#27
teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $9480002	to be quite frank, if we dont go OT or DT, ill be a bit upset... as those are our two areas of main need.
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01-03-2006, 11:26 AM	#28
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	NFLdraftcountdown has a new mock up today, and they have us taking Brodrick Bunkley. I'm not impressed. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sco...ckbunkley.html __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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