Water fasting + keto diet thread...

[Rausch]

I did a water fast for 10 days and lost 18 lbs.

(Note: I consulted my doctor and took vitamin/minearal and fiber supplements the whole time. )

I quit my fast last saturday and have been abiding the keto diet since then.

I had a full blood panel done before the fast/diet and will do another next week.

I wanted to do a 14 day fast but my body had absolutely no energy and quit by day 10 and a 1/2. After that started the slow transition back to eating.

As of today I've gained 2 lbs back which is not worth mentioning. Daily weight varies as much as 4 lbs and it's possible any added exercise will add muscle weight as well.

Just curious if anyone else has fasted and/or used this in conjunction with the keto diet...

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay

What does eating right entail?

Eggs and oatmeal for breakfast
Tuna with some hot sauce for lunch/ shredded chicken and brown rice with a touch of heat
Grilled chicken/ grilled salmon / pork chops beef whatever for dinner with a sweet potato.

Usually what I eat thru the week. I gained a lot of weight thru college and dental school. Got up in the 245 range. At like shit because of time and whatever.
Graduated bought a practice, had kids, stressed all the time etc

Started eating right and cycling. Down to 210. Got down to 200 but I started lifting a little more so I'm Getting some decent gains.

I don't kill myself if I have a bad day or two of eating, or boozing. But I think a lot of it is consistency and planning.

The wife and I have started doing some meal prep stuff where say, Sunday night I'll grill or bake like 4 pounds of chicken and eat it thru the week. We eat a lot of fruits and veggies but still eat shitty at times. It happens

[Demonpenz]

Sad that Big Daddy isn't here he would ****ing roast this topic and its jesters inside out. I can do no carbs and lose weight but it is miserable after awhile. If you got a **** piece and you just need to stay in shape and feeling good just don't be stupid and put an effort into diet and working out. If you aren't getting laid and you hate yourself yes knock yourself out to get a six pack because you need to get laid to not be an asshole to people.

[O.city]

Also, being a dipshit dentist I spend 9 hours per day 4 days a week hunched over in people's mouths .

I started having some back issues which sucked, so I made some adjustments that have really helped my health. Increased the magnification I use which helped the posture a lot, monthly therapy, massage, chiropractor etc.

Plus I started doing yoga 3 days per week over my lunch break. Seems to be helping

[Demonpenz]

My dentist killed himself the other day just wrong a note saying his life was too lewdogish

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

B.S, it's the opposite the purpose is knowing what hungry feels like because this is a "**** it " moment after the 3rd day of fasting you eat healthy in a 2 -2 1/2 interval and when evening hits you lower caloric intake and no carbs . This won't work if you don't workout religiously.

185 to 168 initially and currently maintaining 173lbs

If you do intermittent fasting, sure, but that's not what the OP was doing.. Just seems to me you could lower your daily caloric intake.

I think most people struggle with limiting themselves so they try and starve themselves to atone. You can't fast forever. If you're looking to lose/maintain your weight, it'll take a lifestyle change- not a quick fix.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by lewdog

There's really no reason for this. And I find it ironic that the ones doing these long fasts, usually aren't in great shape to begin with.

1-2 days fasts are fine and healthy.

If you're extending them out near 10 days, your body will begin using it's muscle for energy. This should NEVER be a goal for anyone......except if you're expecting a starring movie role as a prisoner out Auschwitz.

Your goal should be to lose fat. Not muscle, not simply scale weight.....but fat.

Agreed.

Saying I lost X lbs. of whatever isn't really honest in the slightest. At this point, your body has already begun to break down muscle tissue for fuel.

[Danguardace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

18 pounds in 10 days = unhealthy
no protein and no complex carbs = unhealthy


Here's an idea

1. Depending on your age, get your testosterone levels checked
2. eat complex carbs, lean proteins and healthy fats
3. exercise
4. keep calories under 2k a day


I have met several people in the last few months who have done or are doing keto and they all complained about the same thing, no energy.

Contrary to tabloid logic, your body needs carbs to burn fat. Complex carbs provide your body with energy. Among many other reason, energy is needed for your body to burn fat. Keto slows down your metabolism to unhealthy levels.

You may be losing weight but you aren't getting very far as far as your health goes.

Do you have any research to support this? If so please share.

[Danguardace]

Originally Posted by -King-

Wtf kind of doctor would approve of this plan?
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This is a good listen.

[eDave]

I fast every Thursday. Clears the colon. A clean colon is a happy colon.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Danguardace

This is a good listen.

There's a difference between not eating food for 10 days and intermittent fasting.
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[Silock]

Originally Posted by petegz28

We get energy from carbs, not from protein.

We CAN get energy from protein. It's just that carbs are hugely preferred by the body to protein.

2. Complex carbs are needed by your body to burn fat. The fat actually needs the carb.

This isn't true, strictly speaking. Now, in a broad sense, most people do tend to function better with carb intake, but the body doesn't "need carbs" to burn fat from a mechanistic standpoint.

As Hama stated and most people are clueless about, your muscles burn carbs not fat, when you use them. If there are no carbs your body will catabolize the muscle defeating your entire goal.

This isn't strictly true, either. Muscle tissue can use fatty acids for energy. We evolved the ability to store energy as fat because we can metabolize that fat as energy in times when carbohydrates/glycogen isn't available. Now, your body WILL prioritize glycogen stores when you're performing high-intensity exercise, but mechanisms exist to use fatty acids for fuel when those stores begin to run low. I'm not saying that muscle catabolism due to exercise doesn't exist, because it does. But it's not as simple as "if you don't eat carbs, you will catabolize muscle." It takes a big deficit and sustained high intensity exercise to reach that point, as well as insufficient protein intake.

One other thing...keep the exercise under 60 minutes. Long, extended workouts sound manly but they jack up your cortisol levels and that kills weight loss and test production.

Again, this depends entirely on what you're doing and what nutrition you're taking in. Your general principle here is correct, in that killing yourself in the gym while also under-consuming food in attempt to achieve rapid fat loss will jack up your hormones. But, if you are eating properly, there's nothing that says exercise beyond 60 minutes is intrinsically harmful.

[Danguardace]

Originally Posted by -King-

There's a difference between not eating food for 10 days and intermittent fasting.
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Did you watch the video? They talk about doing fasts for that length of time also.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Sad that Big Daddy isn't here he would ****ing roast this topic and its jesters inside out. I can do no carbs and lose weight but it is miserable after awhile. If you got a **** piece and you just need to stay in shape and feeling good just don't be stupid and put an effort into diet and working out. If you aren't getting laid and you hate yourself yes knock yourself out to get a six pack because you need to get laid to not be an asshole to people.

Bigdaddy has a rare condition where he goes into cardiac arrest if he doesn't get pussy

[Mosbonian]

Does anyone do any research on what this kind of lifestyle does to you long-term? I know all the fad diets I tried were just temporary and the results were great until you go back to a normal lifestyle of eating. And I don't care who you are bad eating habits and craving sneak into your life....

In my 60's now and was just diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes in March...(when they measured my Blood Sugar in early March it was 601). I weighed 256 lbs and was in the worst shape of my life. Beyond everything else my kidneys were not in good shape thanks to all that.

It's the beginning of August and with a complete change in complete lifestyle, not just eating, I am down 45 lbs over a sensible time frame. My blood sugar is down to normal levels (taking insulin once a day) and I feel overall better than I have in a long time. I sleep better....I feel more energized....and seems that my mind is much clearer and focused.

I lost the weight just doing intelligent eating....keeping my carb level at Dr-ordered amounts....eating only fish, chicken, and if I need a burger, making it a turkey burger (Jennie-O's are great)....I eat broccoli, cauliflower, green beans, celery, lettuce, spinach and with some occasional potatoes thrown in to ward off any cravings...for fruits I eat a half-banana, blueberries, pineapple, cantaloupe, and apples. All my bread is multi-grain and when I have toast in the AM I put flaxseed on it along with ground cinnamon...

I have dropped all sodas and milk....I drink 32 oz of decaffeinated tea sweetened with granular no-calorie sweetener along with 32 oz of water. On days when I need more hydration I add more water.....for my desserts I have sugar-free jello and Voortman sugar-free wafer cookies....if I need a chocolate fix I have a Russell Stover sugar-free pecan delight about once or twice a week.

My breakfasts are toast with flaxseed and cinnamon and a sliced hard-boiled egg during the week and on weekends I splurge and take the wife to Cracker Barrel for our annual Saturday morning breakfast and have eggs, turkey bacon, oatmeal and decafffeinated tea.

In my case it was change or die....I hope none of you ever get to that point. But the diets I have seen on here seem to make me ask the question I posed at first....what is all the long term damage to say kidneys, liver, etc when you fast or even intermittent fast.

[Danguardace]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

In my case it was change or die....I hope none of you ever get to that point. But the diets I have seen on here seem to make me ask the question I posed at first....what is all the long term damage to say kidneys, liver, etc when you fast or even intermittent fast.

I think it is worth pointing out that fasting (intermittent or otherwise) is not a Diet, it is a way of eating. Dr Fung often points to the fact that society has moved to a way of eating which is heavy and prolific in snacking which is a proximate cause of weight gain.

If you watch the video I put up before Dr Fung says he prescribes Fasting for Type 2 Diabetes and claims it reverses it.

I have also read his book the Obesity Code he demonises Refined Sugar and Grains as the main cause for Obesity and often Type 2 Diabetes.