Water fasting + keto diet thread...

[Rausch]

I did a water fast for 10 days and lost 18 lbs.

(Note: I consulted my doctor and took vitamin/minearal and fiber supplements the whole time. )

I quit my fast last saturday and have been abiding the keto diet since then.

I had a full blood panel done before the fast/diet and will do another next week.

I wanted to do a 14 day fast but my body had absolutely no energy and quit by day 10 and a 1/2. After that started the slow transition back to eating.

As of today I've gained 2 lbs back which is not worth mentioning. Daily weight varies as much as 4 lbs and it's possible any added exercise will add muscle weight as well.

Just curious if anyone else has fasted and/or used this in conjunction with the keto diet...

[scho63]

Best diet plan:

1. Find out your BMR
2. Know your daily and weekly calories intake limit
3. Count EVERY calorie you eat and food you like to shave off 10-15% to 25% MAX calories off your daily NUETRAL number so you will lose weight just by eating BETTER
4. Try eating smaller portions MORE often, 6 times a day
5. Exercise 3-4 days a week to create an even greater calorie deficit and boost your metabolism.

YOU WILL LOSE WEIGHT!!! No need for all these bullshit magic diets and protein shakes and fasting and goofy shit to separate you and your money.

This will be a LIFESTYLE change that you can maintain the rest of your life. There is NO NEED to deprive yourself of things like cake or pizza or beer or any other foods. You just need to understand that if you eat a pint of Haagen-Dazs at 1,200 calories or eat dinner at the calorie busting Cheesecake Factory, you have used up a huge amount of your daily calories.

I've lost 52 pounds since March 25th with nothing crazy but following this simple strategy.

[Spott]

I've never counted calories, but I've found the that the easiest way to stay in shape is to stay away from sugar, don't eat out often, and exercise. Those fad diets are just short-term solutions.

[Titty Meat]

I eat out way more than I should but I eat smart. Seen progress.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by Danguardace

A lot of conflicting advice out there about Milk. But it is low on GI index so doesn't raise blood sugar massively.

I buy organic. The hemp milk is really, really good for you. Loaded with omegas.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by scho63

An absolute abortion of a diet plan. You basically stopped your metabolism by the third day. If a doctor approved this he is an asshole.

I use accupressure beads in certain places behind my ears. It tricks your body into thinking you're eating at the same levels so you metab doesn't slow down; also curbs appetite. Simply amazing.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Danguardace

Do you have any research to support this? If so please share.

No, I made it up. It just sounded good. Try the Google...

"Fat burns in a carbohydrate flame."

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Silock

We CAN get energy from protein. It's just that carbs are hugely preferred by the body to protein.



This isn't true, strictly speaking. Now, in a broad sense, most people do tend to function better with carb intake, but the body doesn't "need carbs" to burn fat from a mechanistic standpoint.



This isn't strictly true, either. Muscle tissue can use fatty acids for energy. We evolved the ability to store energy as fat because we can metabolize that fat as energy in times when carbohydrates/glycogen isn't available. Now, your body WILL prioritize glycogen stores when you're performing high-intensity exercise, but mechanisms exist to use fatty acids for fuel when those stores begin to run low. I'm not saying that muscle catabolism due to exercise doesn't exist, because it does. But it's not as simple as "if you don't eat carbs, you will catabolize muscle." It takes a big deficit and sustained high intensity exercise to reach that point, as well as insufficient protein intake.



Again, this depends entirely on what you're doing and what nutrition you're taking in. Your general principle here is correct, in that killing yourself in the gym while also under-consuming food in attempt to achieve rapid fat loss will jack up your hormones. But, if you are eating properly, there's nothing that says exercise beyond 60 minutes is intrinsically harmful.

I don't disagree with anything you said, strictly speaking. But for all intents and purposes I think you agreed with just about, if not everything I said.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Danguardace

Do you have any research to support this? If so please share.

http://fatlossfiesta.com/628/why-you...s-to-get-slim/

[Demonpenz]

I just cut off my left leg. Lost 45 pounds in 5 minutes.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

I just cut off my left leg. Lost 45 pounds in 5 minutes.

Should have called me...I gots a power saw that would take that leg off in 5 seconds...we could go for a record of pounds lost per second if you wanna volunteer your other leg...

[Demonpenz]

Silock and BigCatDaddy are good Hammas is just good all around. The thing is to see if something is sustainable. My work gave a giftcard for those who lost the most weight and I won 20 dollars every week and when the nurse asked me how I didn't I told them I didn't eat because I wanted the 20 dollar gift card. They told me that really wasn't the point but I think the point was made if you need to get to a certain weight point for as short time it isn't hard but it is damn hard to maintain a good weight long term.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by O.city

I at 36 ounces of ribeye last night and half a bottle of merlot

Good man.

I eat like crap but get lots and lots of exercise. I walk an average of 5-7 miles a day at work, and I drink water and sweat the whole time.

My weight has always stayed steady. I guess it all evens out.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Good man.

I eat like crap but get lots and lots of exercise. I walk an average of 5-7 miles a day at work, and I drink water and sweat the whole time.

My weight has always stayed steady. I guess it all evens out.

There is an argument to made that it all comes down to calories in vs. calories out.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

Does anyone do any research on what this kind of lifestyle does to you long-term? I know all the fad diets I tried were just temporary and the results were great until you go back to a normal lifestyle of eating. And I don't care who you are bad eating habits and craving sneak into your life....

In my 60's now and was just diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes in March...(when they measured my Blood Sugar in early March it was 601). I weighed 256 lbs and was in the worst shape of my life. Beyond everything else my kidneys were not in good shape thanks to all that.

It's the beginning of August and with a complete change in complete lifestyle, not just eating, I am down 45 lbs over a sensible time frame. My blood sugar is down to normal levels (taking insulin once a day) and I feel overall better than I have in a long time. I sleep better....I feel more energized....and seems that my mind is much clearer and focused.

I lost the weight just doing intelligent eating....keeping my carb level at Dr-ordered amounts....eating only fish, chicken, and if I need a burger, making it a turkey burger (Jennie-O's are great)....I eat broccoli, cauliflower, green beans, celery, lettuce, spinach and with some occasional potatoes thrown in to ward off any cravings...for fruits I eat a half-banana, blueberries, pineapple, cantaloupe, and apples. All my bread is multi-grain and when I have toast in the AM I put flaxseed on it along with ground cinnamon...

I have dropped all sodas and milk....I drink 32 oz of decaffeinated tea sweetened with granular no-calorie sweetener along with 32 oz of water. On days when I need more hydration I add more water.....for my desserts I have sugar-free jello and Voortman sugar-free wafer cookies....if I need a chocolate fix I have a Russell Stover sugar-free pecan delight about once or twice a week.

My breakfasts are toast with flaxseed and cinnamon and a sliced hard-boiled egg during the week and on weekends I splurge and take the wife to Cracker Barrel for our annual Saturday morning breakfast and have eggs, turkey bacon, oatmeal and decafffeinated tea.

In my case it was change or die....I hope none of you ever get to that point. But the diets I have seen on here seem to make me ask the question I posed at first....what is all the long term damage to say kidneys, liver, etc when you fast or even intermittent fast.

There is a difference between intermittent fasting and starvation, which is what Rausch's doctor signed off on. Also, the OP mentions a ketogenic diet.

Short term fasts aren't going to do anything. Long term fasts run the risk of cardiac problems and renal failure. Also, if you're taking insulin, your T2DM was relatively advanced, which was unfortunate. Most people that develop T2DM can start off w/ metformin, but it sounds like you were past that. What kind of insulin are you taking?

[Spott]

Originally Posted by petegz28

There is an argument to made that it all comes down to calories in vs. calories out.

That's all that it is. Eat less, exercise more. Everyone wants some easy solution where they can get out of exercising and still manage to lose weight. It's that type of attitude and lack of desire to change lifestyle habits that causes people to become obese in the first place.