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Old 01-11-2013, 10:57 AM   #1
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Not excited. Here's the bright side. He coached two gap but also led the shift to Ryans defense. You hope he learned from Rex. Rex is definitely an innovative mind. Plus, I appreciate that Reid is picking a scheme to match the talent instead of forcing a 43. First time in how many years that a coordinator wasn't plucked from a tree.

I'll be patient. I'm curious if he wants more two gap like mangini or attacking like Ryan.
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:46 AM   #2
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Would have really rather had Ray Horton as DC, but figured that wouldn't happen.
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:51 AM   #3
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From what I gathered, the staff will all be announced at once.

OC -Doug Pederson
QB coach - Matt Nagy
RB coach - Eric Bienemy
WR coach - David Culley
TE coach - Tom Melvin
OL - Eugene Chung
DC - Bob Sutton
DL - Tom Brasher
LB - Gary Gibbs
DB - Emmitt Thomas/Otis Smith *assistant
ST- Dave Toub

Senior offensive assistant/Assistant HC - Brad Childress

Don't know the quality control guys yet.
That is a dynamic staff imo. I like it.
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:00 AM   #4
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I don't know if I'm the only one, but I'm excited about Sutton. I think he's ready for a DC shot, and will stick to the 3-4.
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:03 AM   #5
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I don't know if I'm the only one, but I'm excited about Sutton. I think he's ready for a DC shot, and will stick to the 3-4.
He's had a DC shot. He wasn't good at it.
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:19 AM   #6
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He's had a DC shot. He wasn't good at it.
Missed that. Still think he's a good fit for this team.
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:01 AM   #7
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Looks like a really good staff.
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Looking like we hired a guy to fit the talent we already have on defense. I like it.
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:05 AM   #9
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I'm just not a fan of the 43 DJ, so I'll agree to disagree.
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:12 AM   #10
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I'm just not a fan of the 43 DJ, so I'll agree to disagree.
And I've admitted several times that it's simply my personal preference, so I'll not call anyone a dipshit for being excited about staying with the 3-4.

I'll call Tinballs an idiot for saying we're better suited for a 3-4 because we have Pitoitua on our team. I'll also remain a little flummoxed by the idea that this mediocre retread was the best 3-4 guy we could come up with, but so be it.

I guess Keith Butler's just going to keep waiting for LeBeau to die.

Hey wait a minute, Tigers fans - with Ryan's firing you know our ol' buddy Matt Eberflus will be looking for a job. TO THE SHIP!!!
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:21 AM   #11
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And I've admitted several times that it's simply my personal preference, so I'll not call anyone a dipshit for being excited about staying with the 3-4.

I'll call Tinballs an idiot for saying we're better suited for a 3-4 because we have Pitoitua on our team. I'll also remain a little flummoxed by the idea that this mediocre retread was the best 3-4 guy we could come up with, but so be it.

I guess Keith Butler's just going to keep waiting for LeBeau to die.

Hey wait a minute, Tigers fans - with Ryan's firing you know our ol' buddy Matt Eberflus will be looking for a job. TO THE SHIP!!!
look, I said Hali/Rapoti on one side with Poe in the middle plus TJ/Houston on the other side is a formidable 1 gap pass rush. Idiot.
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:21 AM   #12
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We REALLY don't have the personnel for a 4-3.

Hali was real damned average as a 4-3 end; decent pass rush, liability vs. the run. He just got swallowed. Have you forgotten? Also, as he puts on the 10-15 lbs he'll need to be barely adequate against the run, look for a return of his foot problems. Notice those went away when he dropped back to what is his 'natural' weight.
DJ was lost in a 4-3.
Houston doesn't really have a position in a 4-3. He's too small for an end, too big for a LB that will need to cover RB's in space.
You'd have to re-sign Dorsey, who's your only real 4-3 piece. Let Jackson walk.
You've got Poe, who can physically play DT, but he's a gap further away from the center/QB exchange.
You'll need a 4-3 end and to remake your entire LB corps.

There's a lot of question marks in the switch. IF you keep a 3-4 and just go one gap, you've got most of your question marks covered. Jackson is NOT a terrible player, he's just not a #3 overall quality player. Restructure and sign. Poe and Powe make a nice NT rotation. If you let Dorsey go, you need a 5 tech but you could make due with your rotational guys of Smith, Rapoti, and Bailey(if healthy). The biggest plus is you can count on Hali and Houston, who are both excellent in their roles. So you could use an upgrade at DE and you need a ILB. Not that hard to find.

I don't like it. It's a do-over and that'll take at least two offseasons.
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Bob Sutton (born January 28, 1951) is an American football coach. He is currently the assistant head coach and linebackers coach for the New York Jets of the National Football League (NFL). Sutton served as the head football coach at the United States Military Academy from 1991 to 1999, compiling a record of 44–55–1. He guided the 1996 Army squad to a 10–2 record, an appearance in the Independence Bowl, and a top 25 finish in both major polls. For his efforts that season, Sutton was awarded the Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year Award.
Sutton joined the New York Jets in 2000, and has since worked under four different head coaches. He began his tenure with the Jets as a linebackers coach before serving as the team's defensive coordinator from 2006 to 2008, succeeding Donnie Henderson.
Sutton earned his physical education degree from Eastern Michigan University. He and his wife, Debbie, have a son, Andrew, and a daughter, Sarah.
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RB coach - Eric Bienemy
Don't like.

Not sure why, just don't like. I think there's some stupid lurking in there...
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Seems like a lot of fingers massaging the offensive dough. Is Childress supposed to mentor Pederson?
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