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Old 05-05-2014, 10:25 AM  
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Old 06-03-2014, 10:53 AM   #1546
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Every team in the nfl has holes and the holes we have in KC aren't as big as any other teams holes that might be looking for a QB next year and will fit his strengths as well as KC
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:24 PM   #1547
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The thing is, it really doesn't make ANY sense to pay him big money....because by the time the team is actually ready to compete for a Super Bowl, he's gonna have one foot out the door. At best, half a foot, and considering his style of play he's going to be very susceptible to injury the older he gets.

Don't pay this wolf in sheep's clothing.
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:32 PM   #1548
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Alex is very smart and a master of the short passing game, which Andy thrives on. He flawlessly picks up systems and knows the playbook inside and out. He is not a complete QB and he lacks the pure killer instinct and the ability to take the appropriate risk at the appropriate time. He is afraid to throw to receivers unless they have complete separation and no interception is possible.

Alex is a solid middle-tier QB like Cutler and Romo and worth a solid $12 million per year. He was a great pickup for the Chiefs except that they paid too much for a guy the 49ers would have cut anyway. He won't get $18 million per year, but you are dreaming to think the Chiefs expect to sign him for $10 million or less. Not gonna happen.
Much of what you said here is fair enough.. but the bolded is simply a stubborn and no longer applicable assessment.
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:34 PM   #1549
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Lol I'm hopeful man don't get me wrong. I just think we have a lot of holes and questions that real contenders don't. Anything more than 7 wins it'll be a success. I'd like to beat some good teams for once in what seems like forever.
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:57 PM   #1550
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If you don't pay Smith, which FA veteran should the Chiefs sign and pay next year? Don't even say draft and develop a QB because it isn't happening.
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Old 06-03-2014, 01:09 PM   #1551
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Alex is very smart and a master of the short passing game, which Andy thrives on. He flawlessly picks up systems and knows the playbook inside and out. He is not a complete QB and he lacks the pure killer instinct and the ability to take the appropriate risk at the appropriate time. He is afraid to throw to receivers unless they have complete separation and no interception is possible.



Alex is a solid middle-tier QB like Cutler and Romo and worth a solid $12 million per year. He was a great pickup for the Chiefs except that they paid too much for a guy the 49ers would have cut anyway. He won't get $18 million per year, but you are dreaming to think the Chiefs expect to sign him for $10 million or less. Not gonna happen.

If you believe what you just typed then we paid what we should have. If you think he's worth $12 mil, what do you think a QB hungry team strapped with cash, say the Raiders, would have paid for him?

He'd have gotten far, far above market value if he were cut by the 9ers. We paid a steep price but we avoided the initial bidding war.
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Old 06-03-2014, 01:10 PM   #1552
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You miss Matt Cassel, don't you?
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Old 06-03-2014, 01:50 PM   #1553
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If you don't pay Smith, which FA veteran should the Chiefs sign and pay next year? Don't even say draft and develop a QB because it isn't happening.
Actually, next year is ideal.
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Old 06-03-2014, 02:40 PM   #1554
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Move to a more complete team?

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Every team in the nfl has holes and the holes we have in KC aren't as big as any other teams holes that might be looking for a QB next year and will fit his strengths as well as KC
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Alex better be working on his sprints though. Run, Alex, Run!!
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:55 PM   #1556
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Much of what you said here is fair enough.. but the bolded is simply a stubborn and no longer applicable assessment.
When did Alex attack defensive backs by throwing into tight windows when the games were on the line? That is what I mean. He is so risk averse about throwing interceptions, he will still throw the 4 yard pass on 3rd and 19 when behind and needing a first down to come back or to ice the game.

He plays with passion and heart, but I still think he lacks that true killer instinct that defines the top 10 QBs.

Call it just my opinion.
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:58 PM   #1557
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When did Alex attack defensive backs by throwing into tight windows when the games were on the line? That is what I mean. He is so risk averse about throwing interceptions, he will still throw the 4 yard pass on 3rd and 19 when behind and needing a first down to come back or to ice the game.

He plays with passion and heart, but I still think he lacks that true killer instinct that defines the top 10 QBs.

Call it just my opinion.
The late TD against Chargers. The third and long throw from inside the end zone against the Broncos. A few there.
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Old 06-03-2014, 04:01 PM   #1558
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What do I have to do with Matt Cassel?
I quoted you saying any QB could get the ball to his playmakers. Any QB. Cassel is any QB, so I guess you thought matt Cassel would have been just as good as Alex getting the ball to his playmakers. That is what I meant by my post.

I think Alex is better than half the starting QBs at getting the ball to Chiefs playmakers.

In fact, Alex is probably a top 5 QB in utilizing Jamaal Charles in the Chiefs passing game. Where he falls short is getting the ball to his wide receivers and commanding the deep passing game.
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Old 06-03-2014, 04:09 PM   #1559
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I quoted you saying any QB could get the ball to his playmakers. Any QB. Cassel is any QB, so I guess you thought matt Cassel would have been just as good as Alex getting the ball to his playmakers. That is what I meant by my post.

I think Alex is better than half the starting QBs at getting the ball to Chiefs playmakers.

In fact, Alex is probably a top 5 QB in utilizing Jamaal Charles in the Chiefs passing game. Where he falls short is getting the ball to his wide receivers and commanding the deep passing game.
I guess we can agree on that.
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When did Alex attack defensive backs by throwing into tight windows when the games were on the line? That is what I mean. He is so risk averse about throwing interceptions, he will still throw the 4 yard pass on 3rd and 19 when behind and needing a first down to come back or to ice the game.

He plays with passion and heart, but I still think he lacks that true killer instinct that defines the top 10 QBs.

Call it just my opinion.
You're talking out of your ass now and obviously didn't watch a single Chiefs game last year.

Here's an example from week 3, vs Eagles. Crucial 3rd and long.







Since you seem to lack the football knowledge to understand this sequence of images, let me tell you what's going on there.

As the play develops, you can see McCluster come wide open without a single person on him on the underneath route. If, as you and a bunch of other imbeciles believe, Smith was truly a QB who tries to avoid taking a chance at all costs, that ball would have gone immediately to McCluster as soon as he cleared the traffic.

Instead, Smith looks beyond McCluster to Avery who is 20+ yards down the field with two defenders closing in on him. He fits the ball perfectly between two defenders, purposefully throwing it slightly behind Avery so that he doesn't have to fly into a huge hit from the safety. That's a good veteran throw that was a hell of a lot riskier than the pass to McCluster would have been. Too far to the inside and it's and INT or Avery gets crushed, too far outside and the CB gets the pick.

Also, if you claim to be a Niner fan, how could you make that dumb of a statement after watching Smith in the 2011 playoff game against the Saints on the final offensive play of the game?
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