Chiefs Why Manning ruled out KC... - Page 4

**The Bad Guy** · 03-20-2012, 09:29 AM

Apparently, teams were pre-qualified by Manning prior to any visits. When Condon was contacted by the 12 teams, he told them that the contract Manning was starting at was 5 for 90 and going from there.

Teams either had to say in or out at that point.

From there, Manning narrowed his selections.

I was told this from someone yesterday, and then today on Twitter, a great guy to follow, Andrew Brandt commented on it as well. I was leery about what I was told, but this guy confirmed it.

The Chiefs never got past the pre-qualified stage.

Seattle did, but when Manning narrowed his choices, the roster had no appeal.

Just thought I'd post this since we had a lot of discussions about why the Chiefs never got a face to face.

listopencil · 03-20-2012, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It says that his focus isn't exclusively winning, and that's what the talking heads were all trying to say.

"Manning just wants to win another championship; money doesn't matter, blah blah blah"

Not true - money very clearly mattered a great deal. Perhaps he also has legitimate championship aspirations as well, but if the first litmus test was contractual and not based on personnel, that makes it pretty clear that the championship aspirations weren't foremost on his list.

I don't fault him for it; it's his life and his livelihood. But in the end, I'm happy to move away from the narrative about how different Manning is than every other athlete. In the end, the money was clearly very important.

If it wasn't about the money he would have done what John Elway did to get a title. Take a substantial loss in pay so a Super Bowl team could be built around him. The 9ers would have been perfect for that, and they did contact him, so...not that hard to figure out really.

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-20-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

The best free agent to hit the market in NFL history isn't gonna come cheap.

Why are you bringing up Reggie White and Deion Sanders?

Sofa King · 03-20-2012, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Where was this ownage on FB? I always like starting off my mornings by watching a moron get beat down.

I looked for it too and couldn't find it. I'm very interested in it though.

Hammock Parties · 03-20-2012, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Where was this ownage on FB? I always like starting off my mornings by watching a moron get beat down.

UNCENSORED

Codered · 03-20-2012, 09:48 AM

He did what 98% of every player does. Follow a big pay check ... However, there were quite a few teams willing to pay the opening 90 MIL bid.

So Denver had to have something else besides money that was attracting.

Omaha · 03-20-2012, 09:48 AM

Yeah, he didn't want to come to KC & be a backup.

**The Franchise** · 03-20-2012, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

I looked for it too and couldn't find it. I'm very interested in it though.

It's in the Uncensored page. Barry started a topic about how Condon disrespected Pioli......the exchange is towards the end.

Barry is a ****ing reerun....plain and simple.

Mile High Mania · 03-20-2012, 09:51 AM

Sounds like 18m in year 1 and 58m in first three, possibly injury waiver or something like that.

**The Bad Guy** · 03-20-2012, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

That is the price you pay for greatness. The best free agent to hit the market in NFL history isn't gonna come cheap. I believe the Chiefs were serious about landing Manning and he just didn't feel comfortable with the people working for the Chiefs.

I believe you have the mental capacity of a 5 year old.

Quesadilla Joe · 03-20-2012, 09:52 AM

18-20 million per year is the going rate for franchise QB's. Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger, Rivers, and Eli all make that much. Manning definitely could have gotten more, guys like Peyton NEVER hit the open market, if it was about the money Peyton would have allowed a bidding war.

**The Franchise** · 03-20-2012, 09:52 AM

I'm supposed to take this guy seriously?

**The Bad Guy** · 03-20-2012, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Sounds like 18m in year 1 and 58m in first three, possibly injury waiver or something like that.

Yeah, that's absurd for a guy coming off massive surgery and sitting out a year.

Spin in it however you want.

Mr. Arrowhead · 03-20-2012, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

18-20 million per year is the going rate for franchise QB's. Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger, Rivers, and Eli all make that much. Manning definitely could have gotten more, guys like Peyton NEVER hit the open market, if it was about the money Peyton would have allowed a bidding war.

none those guys have had 4 neck surgeries and none them are 36 years old

**DaKCMan AP** · 03-20-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

18-20 million per year is the going rate for franchise QB's. Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger, Rivers, and Eli all make that much. Manning definitely could have gotten more, guys like Peyton NEVER hit the open market, if it was about the money Peyton would have allowed a bidding war.

There have been better free agents than Peyton Manning.

Skyy God · 03-20-2012, 09:54 AM

Admittedly, QB rating is an imprecise measure. But, with the exception of 2009, Manning's has gone down every year since 2004.

He's on the downside of his career, and loss of velocity from his neck herniation can only accelerate it.

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The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9373645	Why Manning ruled out KC... Apparently, teams were pre-qualified by Manning prior to any visits. When Condon was contacted by the 12 teams, he told them that the contract Manning was starting at was 5 for 90 and going from there. Teams either had to say in or out at that point. From there, Manning narrowed his selections. I was told this from someone yesterday, and then today on Twitter, a great guy to follow, Andrew Brandt commented on it as well. I was leery about what I was told, but this guy confirmed it. The Chiefs never got past the pre-qualified stage. Seattle did, but when Manning narrowed his choices, the roster had no appeal. Just thought I'd post this since we had a lot of discussions about why the Chiefs never got a face to face.
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Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $4108675	18-20 million per year is the going rate for franchise QB's. Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger, Rivers, and Eli all make that much. Manning definitely could have gotten more, guys like Peyton NEVER hit the open market, if it was about the money Peyton would have allowed a bidding war.
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Skyy God 11-5, baby Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Livin the dream Casino cash: $2191557	Admittedly, QB rating is an imprecise measure. But, with the exception of 2009, Manning's has gone down every year since 2004. He's on the downside of his career, and loss of velocity from his neck herniation can only accelerate it.
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