Pioli trying to turn this ball club into the Bengals

[B_Ambuehl]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...-on-character/


Does Pioli Draft On Character?

The Kansas City Chiefs and new General Manager Scott Pioli went through their first draft together last month with mixed reviews. Now, we are hearing some rumblings that the Chiefs have drafted some players with character issues. Today we take a look at some of Pioli’s draft picks and decide if he is drafting for wins over character.

Character Counts?

Look, we all know that character is a big word that is thrown around the NFL these days. Fans question it and the media runs with it—while the teams involved talk about it from a distance.

Does it matter? In my opinion, yes and no. Do you draft a guy that can help your team win, knowing that he brings with him some extra luggage that could lead to future issues as a professional athlete? Or, do you just bypass the player all together, not taking the time or the effort to sweep his background under the rug? And what about work ethic? Is this something that can be cured at the NFL Level?

Hey, I know as well as anybody that you have to roll the dice on some players in this league to win, and like I have said before the NFL is the business of winning.

But, are the Chiefs and Pioli—the same guy who came from New England where character never seemed to deter that franchise—falling under the spell that character is not a concern in the NFL when it comes to winning? Or, does Pioli know more than we do after I talked to some people around the league about some issues in his current draft class?

That is the question for us today, and something that our own Michael Lombardi wrote about yesterday in his Sunday column when discussing the Chiefs recent draft class—and the character issues that are coming along for the ride.

The Draft

Drafts are unknowns, and that is why we don’t hand out ludicrous draft grades here at the NFP in the spring. Nobody knows who is going to play well as a pro, or who is going to flop once they put that NFL jersey on.

And, that is why I am not talking today about Tyson Jackson going No. 3 overall to the Chiefs. Was it a reach? Who knows, and if we want to go there, then count every single one of the top ten picks as a reach—because we don’t know if they will ever be able to produce in this league.

But, we can speculate on character as it applies to the draft. Yes, I agree that the Chiefs and Pioli shouldn’t be compared with the Bengals when it comes to their current draft class—yet—but there are some names in front of me today that at least make me wonder.

Our own NFP Draft Expert, Wes Bunting shared his notes with me on four draft picks in KC that have me scratching my head today.

Jake O’Connell, TE Miami (Ohio)- Blessed athlete that never took to coaching and never developed as a big time threat. 6-3, 250 with 4.5 speed, but never real productive and lacked technique and polish. Always relied on his athletic ability and never put in the work on the practice field.

Javriss Williams, RB, Tenn. St- Refused to sit at a big time school, elected to go to a small school and play right away. Rubbed some people the wrong way on the recruiting trail, but is said to be a “good guy” from the coaching staff.

Quinten Lawrence, WR, McNeese St- Injury concern, has had trouble staying healthy. Has a track body. Has had trouble adding bulk to his frame over the years. Questionable work ethic in the weight room, is only 6-0, 183 and is said to have simply packed it in after his ankle injury his senior year to get ready for the pros.

Donald Washington, DB, Ohio State- Was suspended the first two games of the 2008 season for violating team rules at Ohio State.

Character issues and work ethic in a Scott Pioli draft? Like me, many of the people I talk to in NFL circles are asking the same thing: What is the theory behind drafting these players that most clubs would shy away from?

Does it matter on the field?

Not really—until those character issues become a major issue that prevents these players from performing on Sundays.

We all know there are plenty of prospects that come into this league with some backgrounds that are eye opening to say the least, but at the end of the day, they are still very good football players. And I agree that this is a discussion that probably has no clear ending in site, because what do you sacrifice for the betterment of the public eye? Wins? Not at this level, folks.

But, it still makes us think when discussing Pioli, because this is not something we are accustomed with when discussing his past as a personnel executive.

I don’t remember an instance in New England when Pioli took a player that has some red flags attached to his name. Yes, you can tell me all you want about the Patriots signing Randy Moss as a free agent after he flamed out in Oakland, but I know for a fact that Moss was told to play by the Patriots’ rules or he was gone.

Maybe that is what Pioli is doing in Kansas City. Or, maybe he is drafting to win—and that’s it. Because at the end of the day that will be the deciding factor when we judge his first season in Kansas City.

[Barret]

I guess you can count me in on the "people who are wasting time with this" but I think certain things need to be nipped at the bud.

The original article referenced an article by Michael Lombardi. This really wasn't an article but one of those "drive by shooting" type gee I have a thought in my head let me spew it forth upon the internet.
Here is the web site:
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...at-the-post-3/

"Based on my conversations, the Kansas City Chiefs’ draft has many league executives curious – not about the quality of the draft, as that will take some time to determine, but about the character element, a signature and requirement of the building of the New England Patriots. The fact that the Chiefs selected some players with off-the-field issues has executives asking me, “How does character fit in Kansas City now?” "

So Matt Bowen decides to run with this paragraph that was the original post that we are all chatting about. A couple of things, Mr Lombardi doesn't say he talked to any of the major players in this Chief Story. He didn't question any of the players or question Scott Pioli. Some of the "character issues" had to do with coaching and not taking to it. Is that a character issue? I think robbing a store or doing coke or shooting someone might be character issues.

Also...uhm....Mr Lombardi, in his last sentence stated "the fact that the Chiefs selected some players with off the field issues HAS EXECUTIVES ASKING ME"......wait a second. you mean football executives at the highest level are taking time out of their busy day coming to you for advice about the Chiefs and their so-called drafting issues? I guess you feel like you are pretty important.

So on to Mr Bowens article expanding on Mr Lombardi. Actually screw it, this whole things is a joke. 2 7th rounders a 6th rounder and a 4th rounder have character issues.

Print 'em, the deal is to the character ship!!!

[KCChiefsMan]

gay article

[Cormac]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

the bungles have had like 20 arrest in 2 years-this is a lame attempt to besmudge the chiefs.

I'm just impressed somebody found a way to use the word "besmudge"....

[alanm]

National football post???? Never heard of them.

[Ebolapox]

same michael lombardi who was gm of the oakland raiders?

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

It amazes me the number of excuses homer goggles create. Those are the same type of excuses the Bengals use on a yearly basis. If the Raiders or Bengals had drafted these same players all you people making excuses would be laughing at them and saying "same old same old"

when did you become reeruned?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

when did you become reeruned?

At birth.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

What a pathetic, POS article.