Chiefs A look at 2014 Free Agents - Who should we pursue? - Page 7

Strongside · 01-06-2014, 01:01 PM

Obviously, there are several vulnerable spots on the roster that could and should be improved upon. John Dorsey isn't a huge free agency guy, or hasn't been in the past, and will no doubt look to improve many of our problems through the draft. There are, however, several big name guys that could garner some attention from the Chiefs. Here are a few positions that I think we need to improve upon, and the 2014 FA's for those positions (age of FA shown). Feel free to add to the mix. I've bolded a few players that I think we may show interest in.

3 of our OL are coming up as FA's (Schwartz, Asamoah, and Albert) so we'll need to pick up a few pieces or resign some guys. I'm betting Albert is gone.

Who should we pursue? Who should we avoid?

Discuss.

WR
Eric Decker, 26
Jeremy Maclin, 25
Julian Edelman, 27
Hakeem Nicks, 25
Anquan Boldin, 33
Golden Tate, 25
Kenny Britt, 25
Riley Cooper, 26
Emmanuel Sanders, 26

TE
Jimmy Graham, 27 (Saints would be full reerun to let him go)
Dennis Pitta, 28
Brandon Pettigrew, 28
Fred Davis, 27
Garret Graham, 27

OG
Jon Asamoah, 25
Geoff Schwartz, 27
Travelle Wharton, 32
Richie Incognito, 30
Kevin Booth, 30

OT
Branden Albert, 29 (possible franchise tag again?)
Zach Streif, 30
Eugene Monroe, 26
Jared Veldheer, 26
Michael Oher, 27
Austin Howard, 26

DE
Greg Hardy, 25 (not going anywhere)
Jared Allen, 31 (4-3 guy)
Michael Johnson, 26 wishful thinking here.
Lamaar Houston, 26
Justin Tuck, 30
Arthur Jones, 27
Robert Ayers, 28

LB (we need help at Jordan's spot)
Brandon Spikes, 26
Karlos Dansby, 32 (many here wanted him last time around)
Jon Beason, 28
Jonathan Vilma, 31 If Sutton stays, expect Vilma to get a look for a short-term deal.
Daryl Smith, 31

CB
Brent Grimes, 30
DRC, 27
Vontae Davis, 25
Aqib Talib, 27
Charles Tillman, 32
Captain Munnerlyn, 25
Chris Harris, 24
Others could be listed here as well.

SProbably our most glaring need, after Kendrick's debacle of a season
Jairus Byrd, 27 (will likely be tagged again)
TJ Ward, 27
Donte Whitner, 28 (SF may not be able to afford him. We may not either.)
Bernard Pollard, 29
James Ihedigbo, 30
Major Wright, 25
Chris Clemons, 28
Antione Bethea, 29

Those are just a few to get us started. Go.

ThaVirus · 01-06-2014, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

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Well, Emmanuel Sanders it is then.

Let's do this shit!

ThaVirus · 01-06-2014, 05:03 PM

I love Eric Berry and think he's great in the role that he's in now, but at this point everything needs to be explored. If we can't find a suitable FS option but a SS is available, we should pull the trigger.

I'd hate to move him out of a spot that he's made an All-Pro living out of, but he has the skill to move to FS if need be, in my opinion. Plus, there are quite a few pros if he can make the transition seamlessly:

1. Stellar FS play is far more valuable in our defensive scheme than the SS role that we play Berry in. Dude is damn near always in the box covering TEs and shit while QBs are going deep, getting huge chunks of yardage over his head. In this league, it's better to have a solid starter as your deepest man and let the TE beat you than some of these insanely talented WRs out there.

2. Berry is probably our fastest defensive back, including the CBs. He'd have more range than any of our current safeties, that's for damn sure.

3. Taking him out of the box could work wonders in lengthening his career.

Who knows, though. I'm just throwing ideas around.

**Buehler445** · 01-06-2014, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I love Eric Berry and think he's great in the role that he's in now, but at this point everything needs to be explored. If we can't find a suitable FS option but a SS is available, we should pull the trigger.

I'd hate to move him out of a spot that he's made an All-Pro living out of, but he has the skill to move to FS if need be, in my opinion. Plus, there are quite a few pros if he can make the transition seamlessly:

1. Stellar FS play is far more valuable in our defensive scheme than the SS role that we play Berry in. Dude is damn near always in the box covering TEs and shit while QBs are going deep, getting huge chunks of yardage over his head. In this league, it's better to have a solid starter as your deepest man and let the TE beat you than some of these insanely talented WRs out there.

2. Berry is probably our fastest defensive back, including the CBs. He'd have more range than any of our current safeties, that's for damn sure.

3. Taking him out of the box could work wonders in lengthening his career.

Who knows, though. I'm just throwing ideas around.

To me, it would depend on if he wants to do it. If he balks, I'd leave his ass where it is.

mcaj22 · 01-06-2014, 05:06 PM

Golden Tate would be amazing

ThaVirus · 01-06-2014, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

To me, it would depend on if he wants to do it. If he balks, I'd leave his ass where it is.

I don't really follow college, but a lot of people say he played centerfield a lot at Tennessee. Is that true?

Strongside · 01-06-2014, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I don't really follow college, but a lot of people say he played centerfield a lot at Tennessee. Is that true?

Yes. He was a big part of their run defense, but he played deep much more than he does now...by a long shot.

**BossChief** · 01-06-2014, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

This is a pretty shitty FA class and the Chiefs will be strapped for cap spending. They really need to focus on keeping their own players they want to keep and maybe take a look at like Lamaar Houston to replace Tyson Jackson and a veteran FS for the short-term and on the cheap.

The free agent class will improve once guys start getting cut.

Lots of teams are over the cap.

No is over by like 15 million and Jimmy Graham is aFA.
Dallas is over by 20+

**BossChief** · 01-06-2014, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I don't really follow college, but a lot of people say he played centerfield a lot at Tennessee. Is that true?

When Kiffen got there, he played in the box more and more.

When he was in coverage more in his first 2 years is when he was a true playmaker.

**BossChief** · 01-06-2014, 05:33 PM

In his first two years in college, he had 13 interceptions that he returned for 487 yards and 3 tds.

When Kiffen took over, Berry had only 2 picks for 7 yards and he was in the box a lot.

Red Dawg · 01-06-2014, 05:43 PM

James Jones! Dorsey needs to hook us up.

Red Dawg · 01-06-2014, 05:46 PM

Sanders would be nice as well.

ThaVirus · 01-06-2014, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

When Kiffen got there, he played in the box more and more.

When he was in coverage more in his first 2 years is when he was a true playmaker.

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Originally Posted by BossChief

In his first two years in college, he had 13 interceptions that he returned for 487 yards and 3 tds.

When Kiffen took over, Berry had only 2 picks for 7 yards and he was in the box a lot.

Interesting. Doubt it will happen at this stage in his career but I like the fact that he could likely do it if need be.

mcaj22 · 01-06-2014, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Interesting. Doubt it will happen at this stage in his career but I like the fact that he could likely do it if need be.

well there was a big need be this season and they still didnt do it so I can't imagine what it would take for them to do it

probably drafting a freak 3 down MLBer that can run a sub 4.5. The odds of that are slim

ThaVirus · 01-06-2014, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

probably drafting a freak 3 down MLBer that can run a sub 4.5.

Heh. Would be nice.

O.city · 01-06-2014, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Cooper/Decker/Sanders, Jones, Houston, Spikes/Smith, DRC/Chris Harris/Davis, Bethea.

One of the wr, Houston and Chris Harris.

01-06-2014, 01:01 PM
Strongside Mahomes or GTFO Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: KC Casino cash: $6124282	A look at 2014 Free Agents - Who should we pursue? Obviously, there are several vulnerable spots on the roster that could and should be improved upon. John Dorsey isn't a huge free agency guy, or hasn't been in the past, and will no doubt look to improve many of our problems through the draft. There are, however, several big name guys that could garner some attention from the Chiefs. Here are a few positions that I think we need to improve upon, and the 2014 FA's for those positions (age of FA shown). Feel free to add to the mix. I've bolded a few players that I think we may show interest in. 3 of our OL are coming up as FA's (Schwartz, Asamoah, and Albert) so we'll need to pick up a few pieces or resign some guys. I'm betting Albert is gone. Who should we pursue? Who should we avoid? Discuss. WR Eric Decker, 26 Jeremy Maclin, 25 Julian Edelman, 27 Hakeem Nicks, 25 Anquan Boldin, 33 Golden Tate, 25 Kenny Britt, 25 Riley Cooper, 26 Emmanuel Sanders, 26 TE Jimmy Graham, 27 (Saints would be full reerun to let him go) Dennis Pitta, 28 Brandon Pettigrew, 28 Fred Davis, 27 Garret Graham, 27 OG Jon Asamoah, 25 Geoff Schwartz, 27 Travelle Wharton, 32 Richie Incognito, 30 Kevin Booth, 30 OT Branden Albert, 29 (possible franchise tag again?) Zach Streif, 30 Eugene Monroe, 26 Jared Veldheer, 26 Michael Oher, 27 Austin Howard, 26 DE Greg Hardy, 25 (not going anywhere) Jared Allen, 31 (4-3 guy) Michael Johnson, 26 wishful thinking here. Lamaar Houston, 26 Justin Tuck, 30 Arthur Jones, 27 Robert Ayers, 28 LB (we need help at Jordan's spot) Brandon Spikes, 26 Karlos Dansby, 32 (many here wanted him last time around) Jon Beason, 28 Jonathan Vilma, 31 If Sutton stays, expect Vilma to get a look for a short-term deal. Daryl Smith, 31 CB Brent Grimes, 30 DRC, 27 Vontae Davis, 25 Aqib Talib, 27 Charles Tillman, 32 Captain Munnerlyn, 25 Chris Harris, 24 Others could be listed here as well. SProbably our most glaring need, after Kendrick's debacle of a season Jairus Byrd, 27 (will likely be tagged again) TJ Ward, 27 Donte Whitner, 28 (SF may not be able to afford him. We may not either.) Bernard Pollard, 29 James Ihedigbo, 30 Major Wright, 25 Chris Clemons, 28 Antione Bethea, 29 Those are just a few to get us started. Go.
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ThaVirus Settle this once and forever Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $2092369	I love Eric Berry and think he's great in the role that he's in now, but at this point everything needs to be explored. If we can't find a suitable FS option but a SS is available, we should pull the trigger. I'd hate to move him out of a spot that he's made an All-Pro living out of, but he has the skill to move to FS if need be, in my opinion. Plus, there are quite a few pros if he can make the transition seamlessly: 1. Stellar FS play is far more valuable in our defensive scheme than the SS role that we play Berry in. Dude is damn near always in the box covering TEs and shit while QBs are going deep, getting huge chunks of yardage over his head. In this league, it's better to have a solid starter as your deepest man and let the TE beat you than some of these insanely talented WRs out there. 2. Berry is probably our fastest defensive back, including the CBs. He'd have more range than any of our current safeties, that's for damn sure. 3. Taking him out of the box could work wonders in lengthening his career. Who knows, though. I'm just throwing ideas around.
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