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Old 06-13-2014, 01:01 PM  
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Chiefs released CB Brandon Flowers.
Flowers' performance and usefulness in Kansas City slipped dramatically under new DC Bob Sutton last season, as a press-man scheme was installed in the secondary and Flowers failed to find a fit. He wound up mostly at slot corner, and was beaten relentlessly. The Chiefs were trying to trade Flowers, but found no takers for his contract. Flowers had some of the best years of his career under now-Texans DC Romeo Crennel, and cornerback depth is needed in Houston. We wouldn't be surprised to see them reunite. Flowers turned 28 in February.
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Chargers agreed to terms with CB Brandon Flowers on a one-year contract.
The deal is worth "up to" $5 million and contains $3 million in total guarantees. Despite an anemic 2013 season as a misfit in Bob Sutton's press-man scheme, Flowers found a full bushel of suitors after the Chiefs released him 11 days ago. He lands in a spot where he can immediately rehab his value as a starting corner and then hit the open market again at age 29. Flowers put plenty of really good tape together from 2008-12, and will add borderline Pro Bowl shadow ability to a pass defense that ranked 29th in the league last year. With first-round corner Jason Verrett also added to incumbents Shareece Wright and Richard Marshall, this won't be quite the unit to pick on that it was last season.
He's a Charger now.

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Old 06-13-2014, 01:35 PM   #91
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He played plenty of man well before Sutton. I keep seeing people say that he doesn't fit a press scheme and that's a load of shit.

He was a cap casualty yes, but that doesn't mean there's anything behind him.

Again....your hope is riding on a pair of UDFA's. I don't have that much faith.
With Flowers we couldn't cover shit last year. Our front 7 makes this defense, not our secondary. You might lose sleep over cutting our 3rd best CB from last year, but I'm not, lol. This just gives us room to extend players who can actually help us win.
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:36 PM   #92
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:36 PM   #93
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:36 PM   #94
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:37 PM   #95
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And that's all fine and dandy....but they should've addressed the position better than they did if they knew this move was coming (which they did KNOW it was coming....everyone freaking knew this was coming)
Umm they did. Gaines and Owens.
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:37 PM   #96
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I'd love to think the $$$ being saved is going towards a new contract for Houston but I got a bad feeling it's going to be used to push a new deal for Smith over the line.
Signing Smith to a ludicrous deal and dealing Houston is a complete ass-backward FAIL.

NO ONE could be that ****ing stupid, right?
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:38 PM   #97
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He played plenty of man well before Sutton. I keep seeing people say that he doesn't fit a press scheme and that's a load of shit.
We also played a lot of zone and off man coverage in Romeos scheme. There's a reason all but 1 of our current corners are over 6'. We're going bigger, faster, and more physical. A 5'9 guy who was hobbled last year isn't going to fit well.

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He was a cap casualty yes, but that doesn't mean there's anything behind him.

Again....your hope is riding on a pair of UDFA's. I don't have that much faith.
I don't have much faith that Flowers would fit in this system and be back to his old self.
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:38 PM   #98
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Even after a poor 2013, Brandon Flowers' +35.5 @PFF coverage grade in the last 5 seasons is the 5th-highest of any CB.
But Chiefsplanet claims we won't be anyworse with out Flowers.

GTFO here...there is no way this is good, except for a money saving situation. And, I don't want to pay Alex Smith anything close to Cutler money, and I know where this saving is going. That is suicide, paying a guy who is never going to be better than a 13th or 14th best QB in the league a huge contract. Do you want to win a superbowl? If you do, you don't want to sign Alex Smiff. If you want to go to the playoffs, feel good about yourself, get your ass handed to you by Denver or New England in the first rd, be my guest.

Get ready for 5 wins next year folks.
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And that's all fine and dandy....but they should've addressed the position better than they did if they knew this move was coming (which they did KNOW it was coming....everyone freaking knew this was coming)
Uh...they drafted Phillip Gaines and signed Chris Owens.
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:38 PM   #102
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Signing Smith to a ludicrous deal and dealing Houston is a complete ass-backward FAIL.

NO ONE could be that ****ing stupid, right?
I'd hope not....
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Umm they did. Gaines and Owens.
Hence the word "Better". Gaines is a toothpick and they want him to play Man vs receivers 50lbs+ heavier than him and Owens is a Jag. I don't consider either an upgrade.
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Old 06-13-2014, 01:39 PM   #105
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