Other Sports NCAA Tournament Teams $$

Wilson8 · 03-23-2009, 05:56 PM

While watching the NCAA Tournament games this past weekend with a group of friends, the question came up about how the NCAA paid out to participating teams and their conferences. I tried to look this up and this was what I found...

CBS is paying the NCAA $6.1 billion over 11 years to broadcast the tournament. CBS then sells advertising on television. The 64/65-team field includes six rounds of tournament games in which CBS earns roughly $100,000 for a 30-second spot of advertising in round one and more than $1 million per spot in the finals.

The money from the multi-billion-dollar television contract is divided among the Division I basketball playing schools and conferences as follows:

1/6 of the money goes directly to the schools based on how many sports they play (one "share" for each sport starting with 14, which is the minimum needed for Division I membership).

1/3 of the money goes directly to the schools based on how many scholarships they give out (one share for each of the first 50, two for each of the next 50, ten for each of the next 50, and 20 for each scholarship above 150).

1/2 of the money goes to the conferences based on how well they did in the six previous men's basketball tournaments (counting each year separately, one share for each team getting in, and one share for each win except in the Play-in game and the Final Four). In 2007, based on the 2001 through 2006 tournaments, the Big East received over $14.85 million, while the eight conferences that did not win a first-round game in those six years received slightly more than $1 million each.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Me...l_Championship

In 2007-08, each unit was worth $206,020. A school that goes to the finals earns five credits that year, worth just over $1 million, which is then divided among the universities in the conference. http://online.wsj.com/article_email/...TYxNDE2Wj.html

So according to this information, the Big 12 Conference only earned a little over $1MM for KU's national championship? To make this worse, that 1 million is divided out with the 12 teams from the conference and not even distributed until the 5 year formula is worked out. I thought the payout was much higher. Somewhere I heard or read that each win was worth over $750,000 in the tournament.

Anybody have any additional information on this?

Wilson8 · 03-23-2009, 05:58 PM

Article from Wall Street Journal -

The annual three-week orgy of basketball, involving the nation's top 65 college teams, is once again upon us. March Madness they call it, and madness it is.

All told, there are six rounds and 64 games of nationally televised and streamed amateur hoops played around the country. To be associated with these athletic rites of spring, companies pay CBS roughly $100,000 for a 30-second spot of advertising in round one and more than $1 million per spot in the finals. CBS itself is paying the NCAA $6.1 billion over 11 years for the right to sell these ad spots and to broadcast the tournament.

Millions of basketball fans, their friends and associates place bracket bets on each game. Experts estimate that more than $7 billion is wagered on the March tournament, surpassing the $6 billion gambled on the Super Bowl. The Final Four is so popular that it is routinely played at indoor football stadiums and each game is likely to boast attendance above 40,000.

So, a captivated national audience, a massive television deal and dozens of corporations drooling to get a piece of the action must all add up to a financial bonanza, right? Not quite.

There are a few winners. The National Collegiate Athletic Association, for instance, makes out quite well. Last year, Madness brought in $548 million from TV rights and an additional $40 million from ticket sales and sponsorships, together representing an eye-popping 96% of all NCAA revenue.

Amid this cornucopia, the schools themselves are usually the losers. According to the NCAA's latest Revenues and Expenses report, in 2005-06 the median Division I men's basketball team generated revenue of $480,000 and had operating costs of $1.33 million, yielding a net operating loss of $850,000. If capital expenses and full university overhead were included, these results would be even more dismal.

The most successful programs, of course, will do better (the top 10 basketball teams had revenues of more than $11 million), but even these programs frequently lose money when the accounting is done properly. Why?

Most of the 300-plus Division I schools aspire to make it to the March tournament. To do so, they have to spend big. Since they can't go to a free-agent market to hire the best high-school players, they attempt to attract them in other ways. First, they spend lavishly to court the players during the recruitment process.

Next, they attempt to provide state-of-the-art arenas and training facilities, complete with luxury suites, Jumbotron scoreboards and spacious locker rooms. They invest in academic tutoring facilities, costing as much as $15 million, to help the athletes stay eligible for competition. Then they hire well-known coaches with a reputation for sending an occasional player to the NBA.

And the coaches don't fare too shabbily either. In 2005-06, the head coaches of the 65 Division I teams in Madness had an average maximum compensation of $959,486, with the top paid coach earning a guaranteed salary of $2.1 million and a maximum salary of $3.4 million. These figures exclude extensive perquisites, including free use of cars, housing subsidies, country-club memberships, access to private jets, exceptionally generous severance packages, handsome opportunities for outside income, and more.

These guys are making almost as much as NBA coaches, even though their teams' revenues generally are below one-tenth those in the senior circuit. The trick, of course, is that the players aren't allowed to be paid, so the coaches, in essence, get the value produced by their recruits. It doesn't hurt that college sports benefit from state subsidies and federal tax exemptions, and that they have no stockholders looking for quarterly profits.

Equally startling, the average compensation of these 65 coaches is double or more that of the typical university president -- a clear statement of the perverse priorities of these fine institutions of higher education. Little wonder that American industry hasn't been standing up too well in world competition.

If everything goes according to plan and the team makes it to Madness, here's the payoff. For each game that a team plays up to the finals, the team earns one credit unit from the NCAA. Every year there are 126 credit units awarded.

In 2007-08, each unit was worth $206,020. A school that goes to the finals earns five credits that year, worth just over $1 million, which is then divided among the universities in the conference.

The schools in the Atlantic 10 conference, for instance, earned 27 units last year (these units represent six years of accumulated tournament wins for conference schools) and the NCAA sent the conference a check for $5.56 million. This check was then divided up among the 14 schools in the conference, or $397,143 each. Of the 32 Division I conferences, 23 earned less Madness money than the Atlantic 10, with most of these conferences earning below $1.5 million. The biggest prize in 2007-08 went to the Big East Conference. Its 16 schools divided just over $19 million, or $1.2 million per school -- possibly enough to pay the head coach's salary.

A few successful schools will also experience a modest fillip in their sponsorship revenue. Some will find that their student applications go up and an even smaller number may see an increase in booster donations. Not surprisingly, those high-schoolers who apply to a college because it has a good basketball team do not tend to score high in the SATs or in class rank. As a result, basketball success may temporarily drive up applications, but it does not raise the quality of the student body. And higher booster donations often come at the expense of contributions to the school's general fund.

Moreover, on-court success one year is frequently followed by competitive disappointment in a subsequent year, leading to lower applications and donations. Many schools are so intent in chasing the holy grail of athletic prominence -- coaches and athletic directors face rich, one-sided incentives encouraging them to win at all costs -- that they think little of breaking NCAA rules. When a school gets caught and scandal ensues, its reputation suffers.

And the maddest part of it all is that the "student-athletes" are doing all this entertaining during their semester. But not to worry: Article I of the NCAA Bylaws stipulates that intercollegiate sports are to be subordinate to the academic mission of the college.

Mr. Zimbalist is a professor of economics at Smith College. His latest book (with Nancy Hogshead-Makar) is "Equal Play: Title IX and Social Change."

http://online.wsj.com/article_email/...TYxNDE2Wj.html

redfan · 03-23-2009, 06:24 PM

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Wilson8 · 03-23-2009, 08:01 PM

This year the Big 12 had six teams, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M, Kansas, and Missouri in the tournament. For each game these teams play, they earn $206,000.00 (last year’s figure). With the 12 games they have already played, they have earned $2,472,000.00. Additional money is earned for the conference with each game played.

03-23-2009, 05:56 PM
Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $3607557	NCAA Tournament Teams $$ While watching the NCAA Tournament games this past weekend with a group of friends, the question came up about how the NCAA paid out to participating teams and their conferences. I tried to look this up and this was what I found... CBS is paying the NCAA $6.1 billion over 11 years to broadcast the tournament. CBS then sells advertising on television. The 64/65-team field includes six rounds of tournament games in which CBS earns roughly $100,000 for a 30-second spot of advertising in round one and more than $1 million per spot in the finals. The money from the multi-billion-dollar television contract is divided among the Division I basketball playing schools and conferences as follows: 1/6 of the money goes directly to the schools based on how many sports they play (one "share" for each sport starting with 14, which is the minimum needed for Division I membership). 1/3 of the money goes directly to the schools based on how many scholarships they give out (one share for each of the first 50, two for each of the next 50, ten for each of the next 50, and 20 for each scholarship above 150). 1/2 of the money goes to the conferences based on how well they did in the six previous men's basketball tournaments (counting each year separately, one share for each team getting in, and one share for each win except in the Play-in game and the Final Four). In 2007, based on the 2001 through 2006 tournaments, the Big East received over $14.85 million, while the eight conferences that did not win a first-round game in those six years received slightly more than $1 million each. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Me...l_Championship In 2007-08, each unit was worth $206,020. A school that goes to the finals earns five credits that year, worth just over $1 million, which is then divided among the universities in the conference. http://online.wsj.com/article_email/...TYxNDE2Wj.html So according to this information, the Big 12 Conference only earned a little over $1MM for KU's national championship? To make this worse, that 1 million is divided out with the 12 teams from the conference and not even distributed until the 5 year formula is worked out. I thought the payout was much higher. Somewhere I heard or read that each win was worth over $750,000 in the tournament. Anybody have any additional information on this?
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03-23-2009, 05:58 PM	#2
Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $3607557	Article from Wall Street Journal - The annual three-week orgy of basketball, involving the nation's top 65 college teams, is once again upon us. March Madness they call it, and madness it is. All told, there are six rounds and 64 games of nationally televised and streamed amateur hoops played around the country. To be associated with these athletic rites of spring, companies pay CBS roughly $100,000 for a 30-second spot of advertising in round one and more than $1 million per spot in the finals. CBS itself is paying the NCAA $6.1 billion over 11 years for the right to sell these ad spots and to broadcast the tournament. Millions of basketball fans, their friends and associates place bracket bets on each game. Experts estimate that more than $7 billion is wagered on the March tournament, surpassing the $6 billion gambled on the Super Bowl. The Final Four is so popular that it is routinely played at indoor football stadiums and each game is likely to boast attendance above 40,000. So, a captivated national audience, a massive television deal and dozens of corporations drooling to get a piece of the action must all add up to a financial bonanza, right? Not quite. There are a few winners. The National Collegiate Athletic Association, for instance, makes out quite well. Last year, Madness brought in $548 million from TV rights and an additional $40 million from ticket sales and sponsorships, together representing an eye-popping 96% of all NCAA revenue. Amid this cornucopia, the schools themselves are usually the losers. According to the NCAA's latest Revenues and Expenses report, in 2005-06 the median Division I men's basketball team generated revenue of $480,000 and had operating costs of $1.33 million, yielding a net operating loss of $850,000. If capital expenses and full university overhead were included, these results would be even more dismal. The most successful programs, of course, will do better (the top 10 basketball teams had revenues of more than $11 million), but even these programs frequently lose money when the accounting is done properly. Why? Most of the 300-plus Division I schools aspire to make it to the March tournament. To do so, they have to spend big. Since they can't go to a free-agent market to hire the best high-school players, they attempt to attract them in other ways. First, they spend lavishly to court the players during the recruitment process. Next, they attempt to provide state-of-the-art arenas and training facilities, complete with luxury suites, Jumbotron scoreboards and spacious locker rooms. They invest in academic tutoring facilities, costing as much as $15 million, to help the athletes stay eligible for competition. Then they hire well-known coaches with a reputation for sending an occasional player to the NBA. And the coaches don't fare too shabbily either. In 2005-06, the head coaches of the 65 Division I teams in Madness had an average maximum compensation of $959,486, with the top paid coach earning a guaranteed salary of $2.1 million and a maximum salary of $3.4 million. These figures exclude extensive perquisites, including free use of cars, housing subsidies, country-club memberships, access to private jets, exceptionally generous severance packages, handsome opportunities for outside income, and more. These guys are making almost as much as NBA coaches, even though their teams' revenues generally are below one-tenth those in the senior circuit. The trick, of course, is that the players aren't allowed to be paid, so the coaches, in essence, get the value produced by their recruits. It doesn't hurt that college sports benefit from state subsidies and federal tax exemptions, and that they have no stockholders looking for quarterly profits. Equally startling, the average compensation of these 65 coaches is double or more that of the typical university president -- a clear statement of the perverse priorities of these fine institutions of higher education. Little wonder that American industry hasn't been standing up too well in world competition. If everything goes according to plan and the team makes it to Madness, here's the payoff. For each game that a team plays up to the finals, the team earns one credit unit from the NCAA. Every year there are 126 credit units awarded. In 2007-08, each unit was worth $206,020. A school that goes to the finals earns five credits that year, worth just over $1 million, which is then divided among the universities in the conference. The schools in the Atlantic 10 conference, for instance, earned 27 units last year (these units represent six years of accumulated tournament wins for conference schools) and the NCAA sent the conference a check for $5.56 million. This check was then divided up among the 14 schools in the conference, or $397,143 each. Of the 32 Division I conferences, 23 earned less Madness money than the Atlantic 10, with most of these conferences earning below $1.5 million. The biggest prize in 2007-08 went to the Big East Conference. Its 16 schools divided just over $19 million, or $1.2 million per school -- possibly enough to pay the head coach's salary. A few successful schools will also experience a modest fillip in their sponsorship revenue. Some will find that their student applications go up and an even smaller number may see an increase in booster donations. Not surprisingly, those high-schoolers who apply to a college because it has a good basketball team do not tend to score high in the SATs or in class rank. As a result, basketball success may temporarily drive up applications, but it does not raise the quality of the student body. And higher booster donations often come at the expense of contributions to the school's general fund. Moreover, on-court success one year is frequently followed by competitive disappointment in a subsequent year, leading to lower applications and donations. Many schools are so intent in chasing the holy grail of athletic prominence -- coaches and athletic directors face rich, one-sided incentives encouraging them to win at all costs -- that they think little of breaking NCAA rules. When a school gets caught and scandal ensues, its reputation suffers. And the maddest part of it all is that the "student-athletes" are doing all this entertaining during their semester. But not to worry: Article I of the NCAA Bylaws stipulates that intercollegiate sports are to be subordinate to the academic mission of the college. Mr. Zimbalist is a professor of economics at Smith College. His latest book (with Nancy Hogshead-Makar) is "Equal Play: Title IX and Social Change." http://online.wsj.com/article_email/...TYxNDE2Wj.html
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03-23-2009, 08:01 PM	#4
Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $3607557	This year the Big 12 had six teams, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M, Kansas, and Missouri in the tournament. For each game these teams play, they earn $206,000.00 (last year’s figure). With the 12 games they have already played, they have earned $2,472,000.00. Additional money is earned for the conference with each game played.
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