****Official Other Game Thread****

[In58men]

Flacco looks pretty damn good.


DeMarco Murray just scored 10-10

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

He's exciting, but I fear he could go the way of Vick. And please, I hope the league has a slightly different way of "protecting the QB" when ti comes to QBs like him. They're good, but they're direct-snap RBs, and that should reflect in the level of protection they offer them.

That being said, God he's exciting. I just hope his body can keep up with the hits he's going to take at this level.

Agreed...that is why I like pocket passers.

Vick has more arm strength than RG3.

RG3 is more accurate than Vick. However, it is still debatable. RG3 was very inaccurate at times vs. the Giants.

The Redskins have a good scheme right now for RG3 - He does not make any tough throws in the read option.

[Hootie]

RGIII has a god damn cannon. He's also insanely accurate and has one of the best deep balls in the NFL.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

well regardless of what kind of poster Sestuna or whatever is...

you just lumped Peyton with Cutler and Rivers

that's insane

That's just a function of width of the Good Enough section.

I don't think they're equally good QBs, but in terms of either doing the Elite thing and putting the entire team on your shoulders,r Good Enough to get there with a solid team around them, Not Good Enough to make it to the SB with any team, or a Choker who is often the catalyst of postseason failure, they all fit most comfortably in the second tier.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

First, I don't hate Manning.

But you can't have it both ways, either Elites prove their mettle in the playoffs or they don't. If they do, Peyton has more than adequate postseason disappointment and non-production to knock him out of that category. Before his SB win with his best defense of all of his playoff runs, the name Peyton Schottenheimer was thrown around regularly.

What? His 2006 defense was arguably the worst to ever win a Super Bowl. They were dead last in rush defense until they turned it on in the playoffs, but still they weren't that good at all. A lot of people thought the Bears would win because they had the better defense. Elite QBs win Super Bowls.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

What? His 2006 defense was arguably the worst to ever win a Super Bowl. They were dead last in rush defense until they turned it on in the playoffs, but still they weren't that good at all. A lot of people thought the Bears would win because they had the better defense. Elite QBs win Super Bowls.

Eh... he didn't win shit that game. Dominic Rhodes was the real MVP.

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by Dylan

RG3 might be a some what dynamic rookie- but the key to the Redskins offense is Albert Morris.

Somewhat? I can't believe you just typed such a shit statement.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

He won't. He's a game manager. Game managers don't go to or win Super Bowls anymore.

And he beat up on an always suspect Saints D.

By your logic if SF doesn't make it to OT in the NFCCG this year then Smith is a better QB because he made the plays to get them that far, so we shall see.

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

RGIII has a god damn cannon. He's also insanely accurate and has one of the best deep balls in the NFL.

Guess, you have not watched RG3's NFL games much...

[Hootie]

are you ****ing kidding me?!?!?!

hahahahahahhaha

this is hilarious

That Bears defense was considered probably the best defense...ever (other than the 85 Bears and the 2000 Ravens)

YET

Peyton carved them up and controlled the entire game and the play clock.

What a load of bullshit you guys are.

He also, in those playoffs...rallied back down 3-21 against New England and 0-10 against the Bears in consecutive games.

BUT WHATEVER

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Dylan

Guess, you have not watched RG3's NFL games much...

RGIII has, IMO, the best deep ball in the NFL.

He's also insanely accurate.

Guess, you are a girl.

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by Setsuna

Somewhat? I can't believe you just typed such a shit statement.

First, take away the Redskins running game and then tell me what you have?

I said, RG3 is a dynamic player...However, it is a bit early to place him in the HOF - The read option might be able to work this year - but what about for the next 15 years? He is explosive - but how long will that last before he breaks down? 4-5 years?

[Hootie]

It's the same shit as the Patriots 18-1 year.

The Cowboys were great that year.

The Giants won the Super Bowl.

Tony Romo played OUT OF HIS MIND GOOD against the Cowboys...had zero help. Zero. The Cowboys let Eli score a TD to end the first half after they scored a TD to go up 14 in 35 seconds.

Tony made the greatest scramble I can remember...delivered a ball right between Crayton's numbers that would have been an 80 yard TD score and a game ending dagger that Crayton flat dropped...

Eli rallied...Cowboys lose.

EVERYONE BLAMES ROMO

It's stupid. I honestly think 90% of this board is football ignorant.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

Disagree.

Peyton hasn't been nearly as bad in the playoffs as some think. Football still takes a team effort to win...ESPECIALLY in the playoffs.

Tom Brady hasn't won a Super Bowl in 9 seasons.

Peyton has been just as good in the postseason as he has been in the regular season, and I've supported this with facts over the years.

Both Tom Brady and Peyton Manning have as many "choke" moments in the playoffs...it's honestly the same.

Peyton, his entire career, was held back by an inferior coaching staff and an outdated defense IMHO.

Sonofa****ingbitch.

Which is it.

People come on this site and loudly proclaim that no team on earth can get to the SB for the rest of recorded history unless they have an elite QB who puts the team on his shoulders.

I refute with my assessment that there is a viable Good Enough cross section of the league that can go there with a well-rounded team.

All the sudden the prior bravado disappears into thin air and it's suddenly a team game and EVERY QB needs defense, turnovers and a rushing game and that even if a QB more often than not doesn't put the team on his shoulders doesn't mean he's not Elite.

Be honest Hootie, you're really that pair of manatee's nosing Family Guy bits written randomly on beach balls from South Park.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Dylan

Guess, you have not watched RG3's NFL games much...

He's not wrong. Hell RGIII has completed more deep balls than Manning.

RGIII

BY PASS PLAY CMP ATT YDS CMP% Pass Thrown Behind Line of Scrimmage 61 75 326 81.3 Pass Thrown 1-10 yds 101 153 920 66.0 Pass Thrown 11-20 yds 44 68 944 64.7 Pass Thrown 21-30 yds 8 13 224 61.5 Pass Thrown 31-40 yds 0 4 0 0.0 Pass Thrown 41+ yds 4 12 246 33.3

Eli Manning

Pass Thrown Behind Line of Scrimmage	35	45	260	77.8
Pass Thrown 1-10 yds	155	221	1,306	70.1
Pass Thrown 11-20 yds	50	112	860	44.6
Pass Thrown 21-30 yds	13	29	425	44.8
Pass Thrown 31-40 yds	6	19	319	31.6
Pass Thrown 41+ yds	0	1	0	0.0

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by Dylan

Guess, you have not watched RG3's NFL games much...

I'm completely convinced you hate RGIII with every fiber of your being. You'll slobber all over Luck but you can't say anything good about RGIII without a "but..." statement. It's annoying really.