It's about time we do something about Notre Dame

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

4 isn't enough.

If we had a 4 team playoff this year, Kansas State, A&M, and Louisville would have been out. Not that they should have gone in over Oregon, Florida, ND, and Bama but they all 3 ABSOLUTELY deserved a shot.

Meh. At the end of the season A&M and Louisville both had two losses. K-State would have been the only 1-loss (debatable deserving) team left out and, consequently, they'd be the only 1-loss team that was 1) blown out and 2) blown out by an unranked team.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Meh. At the end of the season A&M and Louisville both had two losses. K-State would have been the only 1-loss (debatable deserving) team left out and, consequently, they'd be the only 1-loss team that was 1) blown out and 2) blown out by an unranked team.

It needs to be at least 8 teams, can we agree on that?

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It needs to be at least 8 teams, can we agree on that?

It needs to be exactly eight teams. 16 is pointless, as nine through sixteen bring nothing to the conversation, and the tournament would last a month. Having Nebraska, Northern Illinois, and Oregon State in the playoff would be a farce.

[Rasputin]

K State got blasted in their bowl game against the Ducks. Did they belong or deserve that bowl game?

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

It needs to be exactly eight teams. 16 is pointless, as nine through sixteen bring nothing to the conversation, and the tournament would last a month. Having Nebraska, Northern Illinois, and Oregon State in the playoff would be a farce.

THIS.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It needs to be at least 8 teams, can we agree on that?

To me, 4 is enough and anything more than 8 would be awful.

[Rasputin]

What I don't like is that the teams in college that go to bowl games have a month off from games. I think that creates too much down time that the players get out of rythm or be on the same page.

That is three to four weeks from their last game played. I just don't like the month long lag between the season and bowl games.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

To me, 4 is enough and anything more than 8 would be awful.

4 really isn't any different than what we have now.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

4 really isn't any different than what we have now.

Sure it is.

In 2006 only OSU, UF, and Michigan were discussed as title-worth and then there are the "individuals" who wanted Boise St too. (3-4 teams)

2007 was a complete mess, even with an 8-team playoff.

In 2008 there were only 4 teams with 1-loss or less (Boise State excluded since they lost to undefeated Utah). (4 teams)

In 2009 there were 5 undefeated teams - Alabama, Texas, Cincinnati, TCU, and Boise State.

In 2010 there were only 3 undefeated teams. (3 teams)

In 2011 there were only 4 1-loss or less teams (1-loss Boise State & Houston excluded). (4 teams)

Does a 4 team playoff solve everything? No. But, in most years it's enough - and those years where it may seem like more is needed it's debatable.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Sure it is.

In 2006 only OSU, UF, and Michigan were discussed as title-worth and then there are the "individuals" who wanted Boise St too. (3-4 teams)

2007 was a complete mess, even with an 8-team playoff.

In 2008 there were only 4 teams with 1-loss or less (Boise State excluded since they lost to undefeated Utah). (4 teams)

In 2009 there were 5 undefeated teams - Alabama, Texas, Cincinnati, TCU, and Boise State.

In 2010 there were only 3 undefeated teams. (3 teams)

In 2011 there were only 4 1-loss or less teams (1-loss Boise State & Houston excluded). (4 teams)

Does a 4 team playoff solve everything? No. But, in most years it's enough - and those years where it may seem like more is needed it's debatable.

The problem is that a 4-team playoff is fine when you look at the FIRST ROUND matchups, but mathematically 4 teams isn't enough to create good SECOND ROUND matchups.

Who wouldn't want to see Alabama, Georgia, Louisville, Oregon, Texas A&M, and Stanford in a playoff right now?

[notorious]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Who wouldn't want to see Alabama, Georgia, Louisville, Oregon, Texas A&M, and Stanford in a playoff right now?

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The problem is that a 4-team playoff is fine when you look at the FIRST ROUND matchups, but mathematically 4 teams isn't enough to create good SECOND ROUND matchups.

Who wouldn't want to see Alabama, Georgia, Louisville, Oregon, Texas A&M, and Stanford in a playoff right now?

You can't look at it that way. You have to look at it prior to the bowls. If you had a true 8-team playoff, Louisville & Florida would never have played.

The 4-team playoff this year would have been:

Notre Dame v. Oregon
Alabama v. Florida

2nd round probably would have been Oregon v. Alabama.

Win.