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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Teams undergoing wholesale changes in scheme and roster do tend to play at a high level right out of the gate.

Wholesale? No. A fine-tuning of the overall product? Yes. We're not dealing with a squad full of rookies here.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Wholesale? No. A fine-tuning of the overall product? Yes. We're not dealing with a squad full of rookies here.

Reid is going to run Daboll's offense? I can't count his many times I've heard people taking about how they will finally attack on defense this season.

Starters not on the team in 2012:

QB
TE
G (maybe)
RT
DE
ILB
CB
NCB

That's very significant.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Wholesale? No. A fine-tuning of the overall product? Yes. We're not dealing with a squad full of rookies here.

All shit talking aside, I would think KC almost has to improve. They can't be as bad as they were last season. Even if Smith is no better than an improved Mark Asshole, at the very least you have an improved Mark Asshole. And he sucked. I mean, he really ****ing sucked. As in "destroy your team" sucked. Add in the fact that Reid is, I think, substantially more aggressive on Offense (maybe Defense) than any HC you've had since Haley was actually trying to win games and maybe you've got something. I don't know what that something is. I doubt that it's 11-13 wins. But it's got to be better than that joke of a team you guys had last year.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by listopencil

All shit talking aside, I would think KC almost has to improve. They can't be as bad as they were last season. Even if Smith is no better than an improved Mark Asshole, at the very least you have an improved Mark Asshole. And he sucked. I mean, he really ****ing sucked. As in "destroy your team" sucked. Add in the fact that Reid is, I think, substantially more aggressive on Offense (maybe Defense) than any HC you've had since Haley was actually trying to win games and maybe you've got something. I don't know what that something is. I doubt that it's 11-13 wins. But it's got to be better than that joke of a team you guys had last year.

I see them tripling their wins from last season. They certainly won't be starting out 8-1, though.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

I see them tripling their wins from last season. They certainly won't be starting out 8-1, though.

Agreed... KC is only 3 seasons from having 10 wins, but much has changed. I think that for the last 8 years, there has been at least one team go from last place in their division to first place. So, it's not impossible, but it's not likely that KC will be that team in 2013. Denver would have to crater in order for that to happen.

SD has the chance to hover in that 7-9 win range. OAK ... who knows, but they could play spoiler in a few games. Either way, I wouldn't be shocked with divisional splits by every team in the AFCW.

At this point, I definitely see Denver being in the best position to pass 10 wins and win the division. I see KC coming in second... there could be as few as 2-3 games difference between the two teams, but my guess is that the gap will be 3-4. Again - barring major injuries, anything can happen and completely change the dynamics and then all bets are off.

I also put very little into preseason wins and losses... teams are tinkering with new players and rarely playing the stars.

There's no doubt that Smith is an upgrade at QB and at CB, KC has good depth. But, is he enough?

Smith has 6.5 years of starting experience and overall is 38-36-1 ... not stellar. Smith only has 1 season with greater than 2,900 yds passing and that was 2011 when they won 13 games.

Smith is a bit of a caretaker QB... he'll have some bright spots, he likely won't make brain dead decisions that cost you games, but he also likely won't put the team on his back and carry them - he really hasn't done it ever. Overall, he's the 3rd best QB in the division... nothing wrong with that, but they really need players around him to step up, he's not necessarily going to raise the game and effort of those around him.

Strong ground game and top notch defense is why SF won those games and you saw them take it to another level when they replaced Smith late last season.

Questions - is the DLINE sound? WR depth behind Bowe seems spotty and inconsistent. TE - Fasano... doesn't do much for me.

I think the following teams are going to give KC fits:
Broncos (2), Cowboys, Texans, Colts, Redskins, Eagles ... I don't know that the early trip to PHI is going to be a fun one for Reid, they'll be ready.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

So, it's not impossible, but it's not likely that KC will be that team in 2013. Denver would have to crater in order for that to happen.

SD has the chance to hover in that 7-9 win range. OAK ... who knows, but they could play spoiler in a few games. Either way, I wouldn't be shocked with divisional splits by every team in the AFCW.

I don't see Oakland winning more than 3 games and I doubt they even manage that. As far as SD I don't see them rallying late in the year like they use to under Forsekin-Head. And as far as head to head it seems like Rivers always makes huge blunders vs. KC.

Denver probably 11-5 but mostly due to that tough schedule. They'll be a better team this year with a worse record.

I think KC should finish in that 7-9 to 9-7 range. We play some really horrible teams this year and even more with garbage defenses.

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I think the following teams are going to give KC fits:
Broncos (2), Cowboys, Texans, Colts, Redskins, Eagles ... I don't know that the early trip to PHI is going to be a fun one for Reid, they'll be ready.

I don't expect a lot of surprises. I expect us to beat most of the teams we should and lose to most who are favored.

They cowboys are inconsistent. It wouldn't shock be to see them win or lose any game of the year.

I think the Texans, Redskins, and Broncos will murder us. Not even close games there.

The Colts haven't done enough on defense to worry me. We had no QB play last year, gashed them for 300 on the ground, and should have won that game.

I think Andy really wants that Eagles win and will get it.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Rausch

I don't see Oakland winning more than 3 games and I doubt they even manage that. As far as SD I don't see them rallying late in the year like they use to under Forsekin-Head. And as far as head to head it seems like Rivers always makes huge blunders vs. KC.

Denver probably 11-5 but mostly due to that tough schedule. They'll be a better team this year with a worse record.

I think KC should finish in that 7-9 to 9-7 range. We play some really horrible teams this year and even more with garbage defenses.



I don't expect a lot of surprises. I expect us to beat most of the teams we should and lose to most who are favored.

They cowboys are inconsistent. It wouldn't shock be to see them win or lose any game of the year.

I think the Texans, Redskins, and Broncos will murder us. Not even close games there.

The Colts haven't done enough on defense to worry me. We had no QB play last year, gashed them for 300 on the ground, and should have won that game.

I think Andy really wants that Eagles win and will get it.

Respect for a well reasoned post.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Denver probably 11-5 but mostly due to that tough schedule. They'll be a better team this year with a worse record.

Our schedule is pretty much exactly the same as it was last year. Our three toughest games this year will be NE, Bal, and Houston, and we played them last year, but this year we won't have to play Atlanta. I could see us going anywhere from 12-4 to 16-0.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

Our schedule is pretty much exactly the same as it was last year. Our three toughest games this year will be NE, Bal, and Houston, and we played them last year, but this year we won't have to play Atlanta. I could see us going anywhere from 12-4 to 16-0.

Priceless.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

I could see us going anywhere from 12-4 to 16-0.

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[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

Our schedule is pretty much exactly the same as it was last year. Our three toughest games this year will be NE, Bal, and Houston, and we played them last year, but this year we won't have to play Atlanta. I could see us going anywhere from 12-4 to 16-0.

And then the inevitable Peyton playoff choke.

[FlaChief58]

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

Our schedule is pretty much exactly the same as it was last year. Our three toughest games this year will be NE, Bal, and Houston, and we played them last year, but this year we won't have to play Atlanta. I could see us going anywhere from 12-4 to 16-0.

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