Would you rather be 8-0 with Alex Smith or 3-5 with Geno?

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by splatbass

Did you watch the game Sunday? He was BAD. He was BENCHED.

Mama said there would be days like that as a rookie. I love watching the kid play though and he is going to be a franchise QB, count on it.

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

You've watched him play more than most here.

That playoff game he won was the exception to the rule. The guy has that kind of game once every few years.

Similar to the game Matt Cassel had against the Seahawks in 2010?

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Mama said there would be days like that as a rookie. I love watching the kid play though and he is going to be a franchise QB, count on it.

I won't count on it because it is at best 50/50. You would give up our first 8-0 season in 10 years (and maybe it will be 10 or more years before we see another one) for what is essentially a flip of a coin. Nuts.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by splatbass

I won't count on it because it is at best 50/50. You would give up our first 8-0 season in 10 years (and maybe it will be 10 or more years before we see another one) for what is essentially a flip of a coin. Nuts.

See my other posts, no.

But I would rather have Geno than Alex, end of story. To suggest this team would have a losing record with Geno is disingenuous at best.

How did the last 8-0 season turn out? Yeah, it is fun, but expecting this to turn out different than the last 11 times they have done the exact same thing is just plain insanity. They are going to have to show me.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

See my other posts, no.

But I would rather have Geno than Alex, end of story. To suggest this team would have a losing record with Geno is disingenuous at best.

How did the last 8-0 season turn out? Yeah, it is fun, but expecting this to turn out different than the last 11 times they have done the exact same thing is just plain insanity. They are going to have to show me.

It's different now becuz it's Andy Reid! DON'T YOU GET THAT?!

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

See my other posts, no.

But I would rather have Geno than Alex, end of story. To suggest this team would have a losing record with Geno is disingenuous at best.

How did the last 8-0 season turn out? Yeah, it is fun, but expecting this to turn out different than the last 11 times they have done the exact same thing is just plain insanity. They are going to have to show me.

And the flip side.... thinking that Geno is going to be a Franchise QB is disingenuous. The stats can't really prove anything about his yet except he is a rookie that can't handle the pressure yet.

He MAY BE a good QB in a few years...but he might also be just another over-hyped College QB that fails under the pressure of the NFL.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

And the flip side.... thinking that Geno is going to be a Franchise QB is disingenuous. The stats can't really prove anything about his yet except he is a rookie that can't handle the pressure yet.

He MAY BE a good QB in a few years...but he might also be just another over-hyped College QB that fails under the pressure of the NFL.

You mean like Alex Smith? What Alex Smith has going for him is game day experience, he is a good leader and he is tough. But he sucks at being able to throw the ball down field, something Geno excels at. It is going to be fun to watch. So far, Geno's rookie season is better than Alex Smith's or Peyton's rookie season.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

You mean like Alex Smith? What Alex Smith has going for him is game day experience, he is a good leader and he is tough. But he sucks at being able to throw the ball down field, something Geno excels at. It is going to be fun to watch. So far, Geno's rookie season is better than Alex Smith's or Peyton's rookie season.

For the record Smith isn't bad at throwing the ball downfield. He's pretty good actually.

He just refuses to do it. It's like trying to give a cat a bath...

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Rausch

For the record Smith isn't bad at throwing the ball downfield. He's pretty good actually.

He just refuses to do it. It's like trying to give a cat a bath...

He's horrible throwing outside the numbers down the field.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Rausch

For the record Smith isn't bad at throwing the ball downfield. He's pretty good actually.

He just refuses to do it. It's like trying to give a cat a bath...

I am going to have to trust you on this Rausch, as I didn't pay a lot of attention to him before this year. What I have seen this season though, is when he does try and throw it over 10 yards, he often errors to the long side. Usually, way long and un-catchable.

I was in awe of the catch McCluster made for the TD Sunday, it was perfect, almost a miracle.

It would be nice to see him develop the tendency to hit runners in stride on the long balls, much like he does on the short passes, so the receivers don't have to "lay out" to catch the ball.

[KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN]

[QUOTE=HemiEd;10137292]Mama said there would be days like that as a rookie. I love watching the kid play though and he is going to be a franchise QB, count on it.


That's why he fell to the second round, the knock on him was that he melts down against better defenses. He looked awesome against lesser competition in college but couldn't compete against the better schools. Same situation is playing out in the pros. He'll put up descent numbers most of the time but come playoff time against better defenses he'll falter.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN

That's why he fell to the second round, the knock on him was that he melts down against better defenses. He looked awesome against lesser competition in college but couldn't compete against the better schools. Same situation is playing out in the pros. He'll put up descent numbers most of the time but come playoff time against better defenses he'll falter.

Ok, I will give you that.

But couldn't we also say that the worst defense he has faced so far as an NFL QB, is better than the best one he faced in College? That may be a stretch for some people, but I think it has to be fairly accurate.

So, given that, wouldn't that indicate a lot of growth and maturity in a short period of time, much like other franchise QBs. In fact, at a faster pace than some of the greats.

[KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Ok, I will give you that.

But couldn't we also say that the worst defense he has faced so far as an NFL QB, is better than the best one he faced in College? That may be a stretch for some people, but I think it has to be fairly accurate.

So, given that, wouldn't that indicate a lot of growth and maturity in a short period of time, much like other franchise QBs. In fact, at a faster pace than some of the greats.

It's hard to compare defenses from college and pro teams but I have to say that when Geno has excelled he's had all day to throw with no pressure. His offensive line is giving him a nice passing lane and lots of time to find an open receiver. I'm not saying that he's another Cassel or Quinn, I'm just saying that I wouldn't trust him against playoff defenses. You can't teach a person how to read defenses, you either have the ability or you don't.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN

It's hard to compare defenses from college and pro teams but I have to say that when Geno has excelled he's had all day to throw with no pressure. His offensive line is giving him a nice passing lane and lots of time to find an open receiver. I'm not saying that he's another Cassel or Quinn, I'm just saying that I wouldn't trust him against playoff defenses. You can't teach a person how to read defenses, you either have the ability or you don't.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN

You can't teach a person how to read defenses, you either have the ability or you don't.

o'rly?

A lot of Chiefs Homers forget how awful Alex Smith's first few seasons were.

Year 1? 1 TD, 11 INT's.

I'd say Harbaugh taught him how to read defenses.

[Shogun]

Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN

It's hard to compare defenses from college and pro teams but I have to say that when Geno has excelled he's had all day to throw with no pressure. His offensive line is giving him a nice passing lane and lots of time to find an open receiver. I'm not saying that he's another Cassel or Quinn, I'm just saying that I wouldn't trust him against playoff defenses. You can't teach a person how to read defenses, you either have the ability or you don't.