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Old 03-03-2013, 10:26 AM  
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Is it possible they are letting both players walk? Haven't heard a thing.
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:30 PM   #46
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It's an incredibly strong LT class at the top, so even if we do think the LT is the way to go, if we don't trade down to get ours, this front office is staggeringly inept.
I'm getting the feeling that they have tunnel vision, like they made their assesments of the team in their first seven to ten days, made a plan to get their guys, and come hell or high water that's the route they're going to go.
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:30 PM   #47
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Fisher was in the MAC & Joekel was in the SEC.
Mayock said Joeckel had some trouble with the inside speed moves on several of the tapes he watched. Said Johnny Football saved him on nearly every occasion.
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:34 PM   #48
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Fisher was in the MAC & Joekel was in the SEC.
I get your point BUT Mayock did say as gifted as Joekel was in college he lost a lot of battles against the elite athletic pass rushers of the upper eshalond of the SEC. Just saying.
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:35 PM   #49
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Mayock said Joeckel had some trouble with the inside speed moves on several of the tapes he watched. Said Johnny Football saved him on nearly every occasion.
You saw that same clip I see.
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:36 PM   #50
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You saw that same clip I see.
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:43 PM   #51
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:44 PM   #52
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I'm getting the feeling that they have tunnel vision, like they made their assesments of the team in their first seven to ten days, made a plan to get their guys, and come hell or high water that's the route they're going to go.
I am beginning to think they want Albert to play guard and give him guard money and he won't sign. Bowe will get the tag.
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:46 PM   #53
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:21 PM   #54
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I agree with you up until that last statement.

You can't blame teams for not wanting to give up even a light ransom to trade up to the #1 pick.
I don't care if it's the Cardinals giving us a 3rd - take it.

They've already gutted their leverage (again) but using a 2nd rounder to pick up a mediocre QB (again) and totally depriving them of the chance to truly make a QB bluff (again). So you're right - they're not going to extract a large price from anyone.

But I don't care the cost, there is no difference in value between Joeckel, Fisher and Johnson in the long-term and if they're hell-bent on taking a tackle, then it's time to do your job and start milking other GMs to convince them that someone like Sharrif Floyd, Dee Milliner or yes, the same Geno Smith who they've effectively sabotaged, DO have surplus value.

It's the same place that Scott Pioli found himself and we immediately saw how incapable Pioli was of operating without loaded dice. Well, John and Andy, it's time to prove you can actually adapt to tough circumstances.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:25 PM   #55
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I don't care if it's the Cardinals giving us a 3rd - take it.

They've already gutted their leverage (again) but using a 2nd rounder to pick up a mediocre QB (again) and totally depriving them of the chance to truly make a QB bluff (again). So you're right - they're not going to extract a large price from anyone.

But I don't care the cost, there is no difference in value between Joeckel, Fisher and Johnson in the long-term and if they're hell-bent on taking a tackle, then it's time to do your job and start milking other GMs to convince them that someone like Sharrif Floyd, Dee Milliner or yes, the same Geno Smith who they've effectively sabotaged, DO have surplus value.

It's the same place that Scott ***** found himself and we immediately saw how incapable ***** was of operating without loaded dice. Well, John and Andy, it's time to prove you can actually adapt to tough circumstances.


I think the leverage was blown when everybody looked at the QB class.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:49 PM   #57
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:51 PM   #58
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They will pobably sign bowe for sure but lets hope they sign albert...screw joeckle at number 1
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They need both of these guys back. Didn't Albert at one point say he wasn't looking to break the bank in KC, but just wanted to stay? I don't get it....
He also said he's looking for respect. I think that translates directly into re$pect.
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