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'Hamas' Jenkins · 05:43 PM

None of this matters. Fire Pinkel.

Pitt Gorilla · 01-24-2014, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Jumping the gun a little bit aren't you, Chicken Little?

Yeah, I'm not sure what Alden did incorrectly here.

patteeu · 01-24-2014, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo

Dude its Mizzou, you really think this will end well?

If nothing bad happening to future MU athletics is what you mean by "well", then that would be my guess at this point. Anything could happen, but it's way too early to be calling on people to be fired or accepting the accusation that Mizzou should have done more.

OmahaChief · 01-24-2014, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo

It's terrible and Alden should be fired. I'm sorry but I care about both. Athletes that had nothing to do with it might suffer. This is a bad deal, all around.

Jameis Winston disagrees with you.

warpaint* · 01-24-2014, 03:00 PM

Sheesh some of you need to tap the brakes.

How many of these stories that get reported with an agenda in mind or are based off one sided POV's only to have material elements come to light later that change the way the whole thing's viewed have to come & go before we as a society quit jumping the gun to lynch everybody before all the facts out there?

Both MU responses indicate that's exactly what we should do.

No matter the hope is that justice is served.

Pepe Silvia · 01-24-2014, 03:10 PM

I'm more worried about all the rape allegations that this school has had the last few years combined with Dixon and Washington. This stuff looks really bad but if the ****ers did cover it up they should be held accountable. And warpaint you're right its not far fetched to think someone has an agenda to bring Mizzou down. Cough*Arkansas *Cough.

What really breaks my heart though is the fact that she ended her life, thats tragic.

duncan_idaho · 01-24-2014, 03:20 PM

Just posted the following on PowerMizzou. I would advise everyone to read the responses from Mizzou and Chad Moller (which I would criticize in stressing that they are following Menu Courey's wish to not investigate, a misstep in my opinion) and not base your entire perception on the OtL story, which has some problems.

Yeah, I'm not sure what ESPN seems to feel should have been done here.

1) Health care professionals should NOT have reported it to anyone unless specifically requested to do so by the victim. That's basic HIPPA (and something you can find re: HIPPA with a five minute stint on Google). It doesn't matter that those health care professionals worked for MU Hospital and Clinics. Just because it is a university hospital does not mean it is treated any differently than if she had seen folks at a non-affiliated hospital. Medical privacy laws are medical privacy laws.

There seems to be an insinuation in the article that because the doctor who saw her works at an MU hospital, that doctor should have reported the rape allegations to the university administration as soon as it happened. That is an absurd insinuation. Title IX does not override a patient's right to privacy.

2) The administration has reached out to the parents about their wishes regarding an investigation. This is appropriate, in my opinion.

3) The main/most important connection to the athletic department is a vague diary entry in which she says she told Meghan Anderson she was raped. It doesn't say anything more about the circumstances of that or that she indicated it was another athlete that did it. It even mentions that she was glad with Anderson didn't ask any questions about it. Anderson says she doesn't remember being told Menu Courey had been raped,

Is Meghan Anderson telling the truth? Only she will ever actually know that, beyond a shadow of doubt. But this is the only point at which Missouri would have been obligated and authorized to begin an investigation while she still lived.

Now, if it comes out that Woodland told the coaching staff about this -
or that one of his teammates told the coaching staff about this - that's
a problem. I suspect if that was the case, we would have read about it
today.

Here's the ultimate thing: Rape might be something that happens on college campuses. It's a terrible thing and I know people who have been affected by it. People close to me and important to me. That doesn't mean we shouldn't ask the Athletic Department to try to find a way to be BETTER. To do more to prevent it and especially do more to ensure its student athletes are avoiding these types of situations and actions That is a reasonable expectation.

I don't think the AD is in the wrong here, based on what I currently know, in its handling of this situation. It didn't know about the allegations until after the fact, and it has not received a response in its query of the parents about their wishes in this case.

But it certainly needs to take a look at what they're doing and make sure the reforms enacted over the past few years in response to the problems with the tutor program and even Mike Dixon go far enough to address this issue."

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-26-2014, 07:32 PM

New commitment this weekend:

Keyon Dilosa: 5.3 RR ** ATH who is going to play WR. He's a Texas kid and Missouri reached out to him last week. Sounds a little bit like a desperation add.

Pitt Gorilla · 01-26-2014, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

New commitment this weekend:

Keyon Dilosa: 5.3 RR ** ATH who is going to play WR. He's a Texas kid and Missouri reached out to him last week. Sounds a little bit like a desperation add.

Good Lord. Desperation? With the size of our class? If they are offering a guy now, it's because they REALLY want him.

Ross wasn't any good either (until Rivals bumped up his stars).

**Saul Good** · 01-26-2014, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Good Lord. Desperation? With the size of our class? If they are offering a guy now, it's because they REALLY want him.

Ross wasn't any good either (until Rivals bumped up his stars).

Yep. We've got too many players as it is. We aren't taking someone we don't really want.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-26-2014, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Yep. We've got too many players as it is. We aren't taking someone we don't really want.

If they really wanted him, they probably would have contacted him before January 20th.

**Saul Good** · 01-26-2014, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If they really wanted him, they probably would have contacted him before January 20th.

We just had a scholarship freed up a couple days ago.

BourbonMan · 01-30-2014, 03:35 PM

A search warrant filed Jan. 23 in Greene County shows that the marijuana found during a traffic stop that led to Missouri wide receiver Dorial Green-Beckham’s arrest did not belong to Green-Beckham.

According to the warrant, Patrick W. Prouty, 20, one of the men arrested along with Green-Beckham, told Springfield Police that he was the owner of a large container of suspected pot found when officers stopped a 1999 Jeep Cherokee driven by John W. McDaniel, 20, for an expired plate tab and then searched it after smelling marijuana.
McDaniel told police that a smaller container of marijuana, found in the glove box, was his, according to the warrant. Green-Beckham, 20, said that he smelled marijuana in the car when he got in but that he did not know where it was and that it was not his, according to the search warrant. He said he was in the car to get a ride to a friend’s house.
A copy of the warrant, which was used by police to search Prouty’s cell phone, was obtained Thursday by The Star.
Tyson J. Martin, an attorney for Green-Beckham, also said in a statement Thursday that Prouty admitted ownership of the marijuana, according to court documents.
“Throughout this entire investigation, Dorial has denied, and continues to deny any knowledge, or any connection with a large amount of suspected marijuana that was found in the back of a vehicle in which Dorial was a passenger,” Martin’s statement read in part. “As has been filed with the court in the form of search warrant returns, another occupant of the vehicle, Patrick Prouty admitted ownership of the marijuana. Additionally, a large amount of cash was also discovered in the pocket of Mr. Prouty, after he had refused to allow the officers to search him.
“Dorial has been nothing but completely cooperative with law enforcement throughout this entire process. Dorial very much regrets putting himself in this situation, and he is anxious to put this ordeal behind him. We are hopeful, in light of what this investigation has uncovered, that this matter will quickly be resolved in a positive manner for Dorial.”
The three men were arrested Jan. 10 on suspicion of distribution of a controlled substance, a felony, and were released the following morning. Springfield Police are still investigating the case and have not forwarded it to Green County prosecutors, who will determine if any of the men are charged. That process could take up to six months, according to police.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/01/30...#storylink=cpy

Titty Meat · 01-30-2014, 04:21 PM

How can Mizzou have such a great season with great resources not even field a top 25 recruiting class?

Pitt Gorilla · 01-30-2014, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

How can Mizzou have such a great season with great resources not even field a top 25 recruiting class?

Most of the class was set. The real payoff should happen next season, as long as Mizzou continues to have success.

greatgooglymoogly · 01-30-2014, 05:59 PM

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecr...-Murphy-151293

Is Mizzou in on this guy yet? Nixa RB, Class of 2015, good build and speed. Illinois and Iowa have already offered, but he said he wants to be in the SEC.

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01-24-2014, 03:00 PM	#334
warpaint* Facts are stubborn things. Join Date: Dec 2008 Casino cash: $7034900	Sheesh some of you need to tap the brakes. How many of these stories that get reported with an agenda in mind or are based off one sided POV's only to have material elements come to light later that change the way the whole thing's viewed have to come & go before we as a society quit jumping the gun to lynch everybody before all the facts out there? Both MU responses indicate that's exactly what we should do. No matter the hope is that justice is served. __________________
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01-24-2014, 03:10 PM	#335
Pepe Silvia MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $1874664	I'm more worried about all the rape allegations that this school has had the last few years combined with Dixon and Washington. This stuff looks really bad but if the ***ers did cover it up they should be held accountable. And warpaint you're right its not far fetched to think someone has an agenda to bring Mizzou down. CoughArkansas *Cough. What really breaks my heart though is the fact that she ended her life, thats tragic.
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01-24-2014, 03:20 PM	#336
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1720308	Just posted the following on PowerMizzou. I would advise everyone to read the responses from Mizzou and Chad Moller (which I would criticize in stressing that they are following Menu Courey's wish to not investigate, a misstep in my opinion) and not base your entire perception on the OtL story, which has some problems. Yeah, I'm not sure what ESPN seems to feel should have been done here. 1) Health care professionals should NOT have reported it to anyone unless specifically requested to do so by the victim. That's basic HIPPA (and something you can find re: HIPPA with a five minute stint on Google). It doesn't matter that those health care professionals worked for MU Hospital and Clinics. Just because it is a university hospital does not mean it is treated any differently than if she had seen folks at a non-affiliated hospital. Medical privacy laws are medical privacy laws. There seems to be an insinuation in the article that because the doctor who saw her works at an MU hospital, that doctor should have reported the rape allegations to the university administration as soon as it happened. That is an absurd insinuation. Title IX does not override a patient's right to privacy. 2) The administration has reached out to the parents about their wishes regarding an investigation. This is appropriate, in my opinion. 3) The main/most important connection to the athletic department is a vague diary entry in which she says she told Meghan Anderson she was raped. It doesn't say anything more about the circumstances of that or that she indicated it was another athlete that did it. It even mentions that she was glad with Anderson didn't ask any questions about it. Anderson says she doesn't remember being told Menu Courey had been raped, Is Meghan Anderson telling the truth? Only she will ever actually know that, beyond a shadow of doubt. But this is the only point at which Missouri would have been obligated and authorized to begin an investigation while she still lived. Now, if it comes out that Woodland told the coaching staff about this - or that one of his teammates told the coaching staff about this - that's a problem. I suspect if that was the case, we would have read about it today. Here's the ultimate thing: Rape might be something that happens on college campuses. It's a terrible thing and I know people who have been affected by it. People close to me and important to me. That doesn't mean we shouldn't ask the Athletic Department to try to find a way to be BETTER. To do more to prevent it and especially do more to ensure its student athletes are avoiding these types of situations and actions That is a reasonable expectation. I don't think the AD is in the wrong here, based on what I currently know, in its handling of this situation. It didn't know about the allegations until after the fact, and it has not received a response in its query of the parents about their wishes in this case. But it certainly needs to take a look at what they're doing and make sure the reforms enacted over the past few years in response to the problems with the tutor program and even Mike Dixon go far enough to address this issue." __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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01-26-2014, 07:32 PM	#337
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	New commitment this weekend: Keyon Dilosa: 5.3 RR ** ATH who is going to play WR. He's a Texas kid and Missouri reached out to him last week. Sounds a little bit like a desperation add. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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01-30-2014, 03:35 PM	#342
BourbonMan The Dude Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: topeka Casino cash: $10004900	A search warrant filed Jan. 23 in Greene County shows that the marijuana found during a traffic stop that led to Missouri wide receiver Dorial Green-Beckham’s arrest did not belong to Green-Beckham. According to the warrant, Patrick W. Prouty, 20, one of the men arrested along with Green-Beckham, told Springfield Police that he was the owner of a large container of suspected pot found when officers stopped a 1999 Jeep Cherokee driven by John W. McDaniel, 20, for an expired plate tab and then searched it after smelling marijuana. McDaniel told police that a smaller container of marijuana, found in the glove box, was his, according to the warrant. Green-Beckham, 20, said that he smelled marijuana in the car when he got in but that he did not know where it was and that it was not his, according to the search warrant. He said he was in the car to get a ride to a friend’s house. A copy of the warrant, which was used by police to search Prouty’s cell phone, was obtained Thursday by The Star. Tyson J. Martin, an attorney for Green-Beckham, also said in a statement Thursday that Prouty admitted ownership of the marijuana, according to court documents. “Throughout this entire investigation, Dorial has denied, and continues to deny any knowledge, or any connection with a large amount of suspected marijuana that was found in the back of a vehicle in which Dorial was a passenger,” Martin’s statement read in part. “As has been filed with the court in the form of search warrant returns, another occupant of the vehicle, Patrick Prouty admitted ownership of the marijuana. Additionally, a large amount of cash was also discovered in the pocket of Mr. Prouty, after he had refused to allow the officers to search him. “Dorial has been nothing but completely cooperative with law enforcement throughout this entire process. Dorial very much regrets putting himself in this situation, and he is anxious to put this ordeal behind him. We are hopeful, in light of what this investigation has uncovered, that this matter will quickly be resolved in a positive manner for Dorial.” The three men were arrested Jan. 10 on suspicion of distribution of a controlled substance, a felony, and were released the following morning. Springfield Police are still investigating the case and have not forwarded it to Green County prosecutors, who will determine if any of the men are charged. That process could take up to six months, according to police. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/01/30...#storylink=cpy __________________ FALSE START OFFENSE(EAGLES), EVERYBODY BUT THE CENTER!!!!!
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01-30-2014, 05:59 PM	#345
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