I banned Taylor Swift today

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever

She didn't start by being the crap she is now. You may not like her early stuff but "Teardrops On My Guitar," "Our Song," "Tim Mcgraw" weren't shit for her being the age she was then. "Back To December" is a pretty well written song in her more recent past.

I'm not defending her... just trying to be fair.

Just because a 16 year old sang it doesn't excuse it for being crap. It is just a lesser degree of crap than some of her other crap. Crap nonetheless.

Look, I don't hate her the human. In my eyes, she is Tebow. Talentless pile of crap that is ****ING EVERYWHERE because the media/society identifies them as some sort of baseless deity. She's probably a nice person. And I appreciate the fact that she is a good role model for young people. Tebow is too.

But from a performance perspective they are both shit.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Just because a 16 year old sang it doesn't excuse it for being crap. It is just a lesser degree of crap than some of her other crap. Crap nonetheless.

Look, I don't hate her the human. In my eyes, she is Tebow. Talentless pile of crap that is ****ING EVERYWHERE because the media/society identifies them as some sort of baseless deity. She's probably a nice person. And I appreciate the fact that she is a good role model for young people. Tebow is too.

But from a performance perspective they are both shit.

Fair enough. No arguement.

I just hate that her song writting was starting to show some growth with "Back To December" and "Mine" and now she's reverted back to lowest common denominator. I actually think she has more talent than what she's showing.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Consider that she was 18 when she wrote this...

Back To December

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever

Consider that she was 18 when she wrote this...

Back To December

My kid liked Taylor when he was 3 and 4 and is over it by 5. I think that says it all. I don't think she is going to be able to convert out of this tiny bop phase with her level of talent on all levels. She has true work ethic though at least at this point but that is a mighty big hill in front of her.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Like that song or not it's pretty mature for an 18 year old to say...

This is me swallowing my pride
standing in front of you
saying I'm sorry for that night
and I go back to December all the time
its turns out freedom ain't nothing but missing you
wishin I'd realized what I had when you were mine
so I go back to December all the time


OK so maybe it's pretty simplistic still. She still did better than she's doing now.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever

Like that song or not it's pretty mature for an 18 year old to say...

This is me swallowing my pride
standing in front of you
saying I'm sorry for that night
and I go back to December all the time
its turns out freedom ain't nothing but missing you
wishin I'd realized what I had when you were mine
so I go back to December all the time


OK so maybe it's pretty simplistic still. She still did better than she's doing now.

Taylor has a lot going for her. She understands marketing. She understands her market and is trying to max it out. I think she is a mediocre songwriter but is doing it. She has an extreme work ethic. My guess is if you met her she would be as sharp as a razors edge. With all that going for her you can never count her out. My guess she will always be putting it out there with some level of success but it will never be close to what she has experienced so far based upon all the weaknesses we have reflected on.

Wait a second, why are you pimping her Mr. 200 new friends?

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Taylor has a lot going for her. She understands marketing. She understands her market and is trying to max it out. I think she is a mediocre songwriter but is doing it. She has an extreme work ethic. My guess is if you met her she would be as sharp as a razors edge. With all that going for her you can never count her out. My guess she will always be putting it out there with some level of success but it will never be close to what she has experienced so far based upon all the weaknesses we have reflected on.

Wait a second, why are you pimping her Mr. 200 new friends?

I actually think Taylor has talent. I don't think she's being lead by the best people. She writes and sings and gets told she's the best by her handlers. I'd like to see her do some real meaningful music and have success with it. I'd like to see her blossom into a worthy star because I think she does have the talent to do that... with the right help.

This thread wasn't about her failures as much as about Nashvilles failures.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Dr. Johnny Fever

I actually think Taylor has talent. I don't think she's being lead by the best people. She writes and sings and gets told she's the best by her handlers. I'd like to see her do some real meaningful music and have success with it. I'd like to see her blossom into a worthy star because I think she does have the talent to do that... with the right help.

This thread wasn't about her failures as much as about Nashvilles failures.

Funny, I thought it was about you having a bunch of new friends

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Just because a 16 year old sang it doesn't excuse it for being crap. It is just a lesser degree of crap than some of her other crap. Crap nonetheless.

Look, I don't hate her the human. In my eyes, she is Tebow. Talentless pile of crap that is ****ING EVERYWHERE because the media/society identifies them as some sort of baseless deity. She's probably a nice person. And I appreciate the fact that she is a good role model for young people. Tebow is too.

But from a performance perspective they are both shit.

Has anyone mentioned she can't dance her way out of a wet paper bag yet?