No starting Cornerbacks for Opening Day at all? - Page 2

Mr. Laz · 03:00 PM

2005

Dexter McCleon - Gone (i presume)
William Bartee - i bet he's still here, but should be strickly special teams
Eric Warfield - suspended 4 games (i presume)
Julian Battle - still here, seems to be completely empty in the brain pan

Benny Sapp - still here, but i doubt that he is more than nickle material

mccleon gone - warfield suspended

who starts the first 4 games?

Bartee and Sapp ............... with Battle as the nickle??

we still have the Guinta factor as well ... the longer we go without any coaching moves, the less likely it seems that Guinta will go.

how scary is that ...

we prolly need to add 3 cornerbacks for next year to even be reasonable earlier in the year.

htismaqe · 01-07-2005, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

but Kawika Mitchell is a stud, we just have to give him chance

Hey I got a paper cut here, wanna pour some lemon juice on it...

tyton75 · 01-07-2005, 03:30 PM

I really wonder if Giunta teaches the CB's not to try to locate the ball.. I've heard a lot of college coaches teach CB's to look at the WR's eyes to get big, then throw their hands between the recievers arms to break the catch up... might be great for college.. but is kicking our @ss in the Pros..

just wondering.. because none of our D-back locate the ball well in coverage

Chief Faithful · 01-07-2005, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tyton75

I really wonder if Giunta teaches the CB's not to try to locate the ball.. I've heard a lot of college coaches teach CB's to look at the WR's eyes to get big, then throw their hands between the recievers arms to break the catch up... might be great for college.. but is kicking our @ss in the Pros..

just wondering.. because none of our D-back locate the ball well in coverage

Gun needs to dump Giunta and hire Hasty.

Brock · 01-07-2005, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Usually you can glean tidbits from what the coaches or guys like Gretz or Holthus say...

Everything coming from the team on Battle is negative, which tells me he's MUCH WORSE than any of us realize. Hell, they defend Bartee.

Everything coming from the team on Larry Johnson was negative also.

beavis · 01-07-2005, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

i think alot of people around here will be absolutely shocked about how much our defense will improve with quality linebackers...

or quality defensive linemen...

Yeah. We'd be really good if our players didn't suck.

Mr. Laz · 01-07-2005, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Hey I got a paper cut here, wanna pour some lemon juice on it...

Poor Parker ... he's been striking out more than Slayer Diablo at Prom lately.

if it makes ya feel better i actually LIKED the Julian Battle pick.

htismaqe · 01-07-2005, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock Landers

Everything coming from the team on Larry Johnson was negative also.

That's a good point.

Kris Kringle · 01-07-2005, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by beer baron

Do what Holthus said Gunther and Carl want to do this offseason. Draft a CB and sign a CB in FA. Start Sapp at nickle.

Also, fire Guinta and let Gunther pick the new coach.

Perfect!

htismaqe · 01-07-2005, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

Poor Parker ... he's been striking out more than Slayer Diablo at Prom lately.

if it makes ya feel better i actually LIKED the Julian Battle pick.

My problem is that I'm ****ing bipolar.

I get so disillusioned that I'm willing to latch on to the slightest little bit of hope. It happened with Vermeil because he was following Gunther. It happened with Sims because he was following Derrick Ransom and Nate NoGood Shitbag. And I did it with Mitchell because he just HAD to be better than Glenn Cadrez and Mike Mazlowski.

On second though, maybe it isn't me after all. If the team didn't cause me to set such LOW expectations, maybe I wouldn't behave in such a manner.

Yep, that's it. It's Carl Peterson's fault!

Mr. Laz · 01-07-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

My problem is that I'm ****ing bipolar.

I get so disillusioned that I'm willing to latch on to the slightest little bit of hope. It happened with Vermeil because he was following Gunther. It happened with Sims because he was following Derrick Ransom and Nate NoGood Shitbag. And I did it with Mitchell because he just HAD to be better than Glenn Cadrez and Mike Mazlowski.

On second though, maybe it isn't me after all. If the team didn't cause me to set such LOW expectations, maybe I would behave in such a manner.

Yep, that's it. It's Carl Peterson's fault!

Dammit Carl!!!

htismaqe · 01-07-2005, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

Dammit Carl!!!

I should have listened to my own advice a long time ago...

> bad ≠ good

> bad ≠ good

> bad ≠ good

BigChiefFan · 01-07-2005, 04:01 PM

Gary Baxter and Ken Lucas should be on the Chiefs targeted FA list.

ROYC75 · 01-07-2005, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

My problem is that I'm ****ing bipolar.

I get so disillusioned that I'm willing to latch on to the slightest little bit of hope. It happened with Vermeil because he was following Gunther. It happened with Sims because he was following Derrick Ransom and Nate NoGood Shitbag. And I did it with Mitchell because he just HAD to be better than Glenn Cadrez and Mike Mazlowski.

On second though, maybe it isn't me after all. If the team didn't cause me to set such LOW expectations, maybe I wouldn't behave in such a manner.

Yep, that's it. It's Carl Peterson's fault!

Uh Oh, maybe I was wishing Scanlon would be good enough and held out for the slightest little bit of hope after Cadrez,Bush,Mazlowski and Mitchell.

htismaqe · 01-07-2005, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Gary Baxter and Ken Lucas should be on the Chiefs targeted FA list.

We can't afford both of them, IMO. We need help at too many positions to sign 2 top-tier free agents at one position.

htismaqe · 01-07-2005, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

Uh Oh, maybe I was wishing Scanlon would be good enough and held out for the slightest little bit of hope after Cadrez,Bush,Mazlowski and Mitchell.

Yes.

It's called Brian Shay Syndrome. Better known as Jessie Haynes Disease, or the Perriman Complex.

After years of suffering mediocrity Chiefs fans are willing to accept ANYTHING new and exalt it...

01-07-2005, 02:54 PM
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