Chiefs Thoughts on Preseason Game #2 - Page 21

**petegz28** · 08-18-2012, 08:32 PM

No sense in waiting for this to end.

Break it down

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-19-2012, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Toby Gerhart is an excellent complementary RB.

So, you'd rather the Chiefs spend the #36 overall on Gerhart instead of getting Hillis on the cheap in FA?

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Carlos Dunlap has 14 sacks in two years and is a starter on a nasty defense.

And Houston was a better bargain with just as much upside.

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Brandon Spikes is also a starting ILB.

With the same pass coverage ability as Belcher.

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Most of those players I listed are solid starters.

They aren't a better fit for the Chiefs. To say that McCluster hasn't been solid, especially when he's had 3 TD's from receiving and rushing and more than 1,000 yards combined, is ludicrous.

Chiefs Pantalones · 08-19-2012, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

What was his TD-to-INT ratio?

/Casselhomers

His OL sucks, though.

/Casselhomers

I blame Haley

/Casselhomers.

Dude is the checkdown king.

Lol I was just wondering...

Hammock Parties · 08-19-2012, 01:37 AM

What's ludicrous is defending McCluster at all.

He's a shitty #4 WR.

Yeah, that's better than an actual playmaker like Toby Gerhart...or a pretty nice pass rusher like Carlos Dunlap...or a beast TE like Gronkowski.

To say those players are worse than a guy who averaged 7 yards a catch tonight is hilarious. To bring up his pathetic rushing stats in defense of him is even more hilarious.

The McCluster pick just gets worse and worse. And yet people on this board think he's our best receiver. WHAT?

He'll probably get 10 snaps a game when Bowe is back.

TOTALLY WORTH THAT PICK NOW, HUH?

**BossChief** · 08-19-2012, 01:40 AM

1) 6 passes that went for more than 10 yards in a half a game is improvement from Matt. I'll take that as an average from him for the year, if that's the case.

2) McCluster had more yards than Breaston last year. Also, I think it's funnyyou throw out that Dexter had 850 yards last year, but use Breastons 1 season he had 1006 yards as some arguing point. Dexters 850 are MORE yards than ANY YEAR Breaston had with exception of that one 1006 yard season.

So far, Daboll has Dexter above Breaston and before you try to claim it's because of some "Pioli is trying to save face for a bad pick herp"...realize that Pioli gave Breaston a mid level free agent deal with about 10 million in guarantees. Awfully silly to think he wouldnt want that guy to play because he is forcing Daboll to move DMC up the depth chart.

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-19-2012, 01:40 AM

Please shut the **** up about "The Dexter Pick" and #36.

Its been 2 yrs. Get the **** over that.

If you dislike the player, fine. Argue that point.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-19-2012, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

What's ludicrous is defending McCluster at all.

He's a shitty #4 WR.

Yeah, that's better than an actual playmaker like Toby Gerhart...or a pretty nice pass rusher like Carlos Dunlap...or a beast TE like Gronkowski.

To say those players are worse than a guy who averaged 7 yards a catch tonight is hilarious. To bring up his pathetic rushing stats in defense of him is even more hilarious.

The McCluster pick just gets worse and worse. And yet people on this board think he's our best receiver. WHAT?

He'll probably get 10 snaps a game when Bowe is back.

TOTALLY WORTH THAT PICK NOW, HUH?

You're a ****ing dumbass.

You're going to tell me that he wasn't a better selection than 27 other picks in Round Two of the 2010 draft? Seriously?

Hammock Parties · 08-19-2012, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

1) 6 passes that went for more than 10 yards in a half a game is improvement from Matt. I'll take that as an average from him for the year, if that's the case.

What?

He didn't throw the ball past 10 yards.

The players who caught his shitty short throw did all the work.

Wake up.

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2) McCluster had more yards than Breaston last year.

Yeah, OK. **** you. Dexter will get 10 snaps a game this year as the #4 WR. Watch.

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So far, Daboll has Dexter above Breaston

So far, you're being incredibly ignorant. Steve Breaston started the ****ing game tonight. He's the #2. So, you're wrong.

Hammock Parties · 08-19-2012, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're a ****ing dumbass.

You're going to tell me that he wasn't a better selection than 27 other picks in Round Two of the 2010 draft? Seriously?

I've already identified at least 5 players (closer to 10) who offer a lot more value.

It's not hard to offer more value than a #4 WR who lacks playmaking ability, let's be honest.

It's not hard at all.

Dex was a horrible pick that the highest paid GM in football ****ed up hard on.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-19-2012, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Please shut the **** up about "The Dexter Pick" and #36.

Its been 2 yrs. Get the **** over that.

If you dislike the player, fine. Argue that point.

What's ridiculous is that he's acting like McCluster is Junior Siavii or Kris Wilson or Eddie Freeman or Turk McBride or William Bartee.

Hammock Parties · 08-19-2012, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What's ridiculous is that he's acting like McCluster is Junior Siavii or Kris Wilson or Eddie Freeman or Turk McBride or William Bartee.

He's EXACTLY like those players.

He's a shitty #4 WR who catches dumpoffs and little 5-yard outs.

He's nothing special whatsoever.

Tonight proved it.

Chiefs=Champions · 08-19-2012, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I am really anxious to see what Baldwin can do once the ball's in his hands. I'll most certainly give him a pass tonight but I'd like to see him make that catch in the future.

Sure. But when u only get two targets and one is a shitty low percentage pass at the end of the half, i think its unfair to dog him. Hell get his time to shine and i think hell take it. Its a pitty however that the best part of his gsme is being a deep threat and we have a qb who struggles to pass past 15 yards..

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-19-2012, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

I've already identified at least 5 players (closer to 10) who offer a lot more value.

It's not hard to offer more value than a #4 WR who lacks playmaking ability, let's be honest.

It's not hard at all.

Dex was a horrible pick that the highest paid GM in football ****ed up hard on.

Bullshit.

How many games did Dunlap win on his own? How many games did Misi win on his own? How many games has Gerhart won on his own?

Without McCluster, this team would have been sitting home in the playoffs his rookie season. Add that to his contributions at any position he's been asked to play, and I'd say he's been a pretty integral part of the Chiefs the past two seasons. And I expect that role to grow this year.

Chill with the histrionics, Dude.

Fat Elvis · 08-19-2012, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

Sure. But when u only get two targets and one is a shitty low percentage pass at the end of the half, i think its unfair to dog him. Hell get his time to shine and i think hell take it. Its a pitty however that the best part of his gsme is being a deep threat and we have a qb who struggles to pass past 15 yards..

Try 1.5 yards...you give Cassel too much credit.

Hammock Parties · 08-19-2012, 01:49 AM

You expect his role to grow?

As the #4 WR?

In a run-first offense?

Dane, come on man.

You know how many catches the #4 WR is worth in a Matt Cassel/Brian Daboll offense?

About 15, maybe 20.

Go look it up. Look up the history of #4 wide receivers in Matt Cassel offenses.

THEY DON'T DO SHIT.

And since Dex is a worthless receiver who has zero ability past 10 yards (unless he's open by 10 yards, which isn't going to happen often), he'll do less than shit.

Chiefs=Champions · 08-19-2012, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

He's EXACTLY like those players.

He's a shitty #4 WR who catches dumpoffs and little 5-yard outs.

He's nothing special whatsoever.

Tonight proved it.

Youre trying way too hard to put McCluster down. He like Baldwin can only take the chances given to him. Hes done that. Good for him.

Yes it was a shitty pick. Probs time to get over it.

08-18-2012, 08:32 PM
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08-19-2012, 01:37 AM	#303
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4600478	What's ludicrous is defending McCluster at all. He's a shitty #4 WR. Yeah, that's better than an actual playmaker like Toby Gerhart...or a pretty nice pass rusher like Carlos Dunlap...or a beast TE like Gronkowski. To say those players are worse than a guy who averaged 7 yards a catch tonight is hilarious. To bring up his pathetic rushing stats in defense of him is even more hilarious. The McCluster pick just gets worse and worse. And yet people on this board think he's our best receiver. WHAT? He'll probably get 10 snaps a game when Bowe is back. TOTALLY WORTH THAT PICK NOW, HUH? __________________ Chiefs game films
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08-19-2012, 01:40 AM	#304
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1764088	1) 6 passes that went for more than 10 yards in a half a game is improvement from Matt. I'll take that as an average from him for the year, if that's the case. 2) McCluster had more yards than Breaston last year. Also, I think it's funnyyou throw out that Dexter had 850 yards last year, but use Breastons 1 season he had 1006 yards as some arguing point. Dexters 850 are MORE yards than ANY YEAR Breaston had with exception of that one 1006 yard season. So far, Daboll has Dexter above Breaston and before you try to claim it's because of some "Pioli is trying to save face for a bad pick herp"...realize that Pioli gave Breaston a mid level free agent deal with about 10 million in guarantees. Awfully silly to think he wouldnt want that guy to play because he is forcing Daboll to move DMC up the depth chart. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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08-19-2012, 01:40 AM	#305
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08-19-2012, 01:49 AM	#314
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4600478	You expect his role to grow? As the #4 WR? In a run-first offense? Dane, come on man. You know how many catches the #4 WR is worth in a Matt Cassel/Brian Daboll offense? About 15, maybe 20. Go look it up. Look up the history of #4 wide receivers in Matt Cassel offenses. THEY DON'T DO SHIT. And since Dex is a worthless receiver who has zero ability past 10 yards (unless he's open by 10 yards, which isn't going to happen often), he'll do less than shit. __________________ Chiefs game films
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