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Old 11-20-2018, 07:47 AM  
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Is the NFL and its refs out to "get us"?
You conspiracy nuts need to stop this crap.The game wasn't fixed. This poor old me routine on here is getting old.



The NFL loves the Chiefs and Mahomes. They are the exact team they want playing in the NFL. GMF is nothing but a Mahomes lovefest every morning. All of the NFL network shows tout Mahomes and the Chiefs offense. They flexed us into two straight weeks on SNF. Its so obvious other teams fans are bitching about the constant Mahomes/Chiefs love fest.But, they are out to get us?

Another one is the NFL doesnt want a small market winning the SB. Are these conspiracy nuts paying attention? Small markets don't matter if your the big dog. Rogers in GB, Manning in Indy, Hello....evidence you can see with your own eyes.

With all this evidence we can see on a daily basis, somehow you get the idea that the NFL wants the Chiefs to lose. That makes no sense. They are not out to "get us". The NFL is promoting the shit out of us on a daily basis. This conspiracy BS is just that, BS.
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Old 11-20-2018, 03:40 PM   #226
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It's irrelevant. With profit sharing it doesn't really matter. And the NFL certainly isn't going to risk running a huge conspiracy when they don't have to. They're rolling in profit. Fixing games isn't necessary. Profit sharing ensures that the get the same profit regardless of which team does better. That's the entire point of profit sharing!
Right - so your argument is that riggage is unnecessary because of profit-sharing.

Could it be possible that the most-profitable teams - as well as the teams like LA with huge leverage for their media market and NFL's desperate desire for Lakers-level fandom to take hold - only go along with it on the basis that they know they're gonna get some help when it matters most?

I feel like if they NFL had their way a big-market team would win something like 4 out of 5 superbowls. Same is true for MLB and NBA. Now work backwards and ask, in an era of concern about declining ratings and stadium revenues, if they would actually take steps to try to make that happen.

Most people seem to think the NBA did, at least with the Patrick Ewing -> Knicks lottery miracle, if not the fixed Lakers/Kings game and who knows what else. Is it that far-fetched the NFL would try to put their thumb on the scale here and there to do the same thing?
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Old 11-20-2018, 03:40 PM   #227
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They did help them out, you both totally missed the point as usual. They called offensive pass interference on the Broncos that was totally bullshit. should have been the nail, but it wasn't, the Broncos overcame it.

Do you even watch football?
I watched the entire game. I saw the LA team, at home, lose the game to a lesser Donkey team. But yeah I supposed that's also part of the conspiracy...
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Old 11-20-2018, 03:41 PM   #228
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And what was the point of that "All Star" crew? Beats the hell out of me. They were some of the worst I have seen this year. All that you mentioned above happened. No conspiracy there...almost like the NFL had the outcome of the game determined all along and the Chiefs (damn them ) almost destroyed their "pity party" for Los Angeles.....
The move didnt make any sense, it was unprecedented

I wanna see those Ram mother****ers again down in Atlanta...
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Old 11-20-2018, 03:45 PM   #229
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One thing I'm also curious about. Has anyone confirmed how these "all star" refs were selected? Is this solely up to the commissioner? Is there any transparency?
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Old 11-20-2018, 03:47 PM   #230
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One thing I'm also curious about. Has anyone confirmed how these "all star" refs were selected? Is this solely up to the commissioner? Is there any transparency?
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Old 11-20-2018, 03:49 PM   #231
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I watched the entire game. I saw the LA team, at home, lose the game to a lesser Donkey team. But yeah I supposed that's also part of the conspiracy...
That one was just to throw people off the scent.
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Old 11-20-2018, 03:50 PM   #232
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I'm gonna say yes, the league wanted LA to get this one

Egregiously ticky-tack defensive backfield calls against us
Multiple obvious false starts by their RT uncalled
Suh cheapshots Mahomes uncalled
Peters takes helmet off uncalled
Dee Ford gets a chokehold

Thats just a few off the top of my head, how could a supposed all star crew be that bad if not on purpose?
The non block in the back on the punt return. Not only were they missing things right in front of them, they were also making up calls as they went along.
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Old 11-20-2018, 03:50 PM   #233
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I knew what you were referring to... the receiver had his hand inside the defenders helmet, but it was DPI. They definitely overcame it, suprisingly.
Yeah, and all of a sudden Keenum went from being a poor man's Alex Smith the entire game, to Joe Montana for a couple of plays.

I was like, what the heck just happened?
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Old 11-20-2018, 03:56 PM   #235
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Right - so your argument is that riggage is unnecessary because of profit-sharing.

Could it be possible that the most-profitable teams - as well as the teams like LA with huge leverage for their media market and NFL's desperate desire for Lakers-level fandom to take hold - only go along with it on the basis that they know they're gonna get some help when it matters most?

I feel like if they NFL had their way a big-market team would win something like 4 out of 5 superbowls. Now work backwards and ask, in an era of concern about declining ratings and stadium revenues, if they would actually take steps to try to make that happen.
So you think the teams are also in on the fix? Does that really make sense? Dallas has double the revenue of 21 other teams in the NFL. They're sitting at .500 and have sucked for years now. Are you saying teams like Dallas are knowingly donating their profit while getting no ref help so the NFL can give preferences to other teams? That seems reasonable? Nevermind that it ignores the impossibility of a huge conspiracy like that.
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The non block in the back on the punt return. Not only were they missing things right in front of them, they were also making up calls as they went along.
The holier than thou crowd wont get any traction with me

Supposed top shelf professionals dont make that many blatant mistakes
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I watched the entire game. I saw the LA team, at home, lose the game to a lesser Donkey team. But yeah I supposed that's also part of the conspiracy...
You are denser than a concrete wall. Let me spell it out in small words for you.

Did you not see the calls at the end of game that favored the LA team? Bullshit calls?

I hate Denver as much as the next guy on here, but that was crazy. Keenun looked like crap and somehow found another gear to overcome it.

Some of you remind me of that spoiled 8 year old kid that doesn't want to believe it when he is told there is no Santa Claus or Easter bunny.

Reality sucks, but this is a multi billion dollar business with no accountability.

It is entertainment.
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Old 11-20-2018, 04:04 PM   #238
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If you were secretly rigging a game, do you think you would drop a wink on live TV? That would also imply that Goff was in on it as well. Really?
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So you think the teams are also in on the fix? Does that really make sense? Dallas has double the revenue of 21 other teams in the NFL. They're sitting at .500 and have sucked for years now. Are you saying teams like Dallas are knowingly donating their profit while getting no ref help so the NFL can give preferences to other teams? That seems reasonable? Nevermind that it ignores the impossibility of a huge conspiracy like that.
1) The Cowboys are a marketing machine on their own, with or without winning.
2) Goodell and Jerry aren't exactly friendly and this may be part of it.
3) The Cowboys DO get ref help to some degree...do you watch their games? The games aren't totally fixed, just tilted. A team can be good enough to overcome (see Jax last year) or squander the opportunity (like the Rams almost did last night).
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If you were secretly rigging a game, do you think you would drop a wink on live TV? That would also imply that Goff was in on it as well. Really?
Do you think they'd make blatant calls/no calls for the world to see? Really?
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