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[Hammock Parties]

As Chiefs fans we should be in favor of the shortest route to drafting our own 1st round QB.

That means chopping off the heads of the assholes running our franchise ASAP.

**** all this Brady Quinn bullshit.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

As Chiefs fans we should be in favor of the shortest route to drafting our own 1st round QB.

That means chopping off the heads of the assholes running our franchise ASAP.

**** all this Brady Quinn bullshit.

That's great and all, but it's not like these mythical Hall of Fame first round quarterbacks are just out there for the taking. It's hit and miss, just like any player at any position.

And if Quinn is able to put everything together (and he's got a lot of the tools you want to see in a starting NFL quarterback), I don't think it makes much of a difference if he was or wasn't initially drafted by this franchise.

The guy got caught in a bad situation several times and hasn't been able to truly get a shot. He's got that opportunity now. If he doesn't, then so be it, but I don't think that there's a need to crucify him for simply being on the team and actually looking better than the other two guys on the roster at the QB position because he wasn't drafted by the Chiefs or he hasn't made multiple All-Pro teams.

He's still young, he's got the tools and he's finally going to get a legit chance. The Chiefs are a pretty solid team on both sides of the ball, and with the pick up of Hillis and Winston, they are going to be a very strong run team. He also has a very nice receiving corps to work with. It's not like he needs to carry the team by himself. He's comfortable in the Daboll system, etc.

It's the best chance the Chiefs have had of putting together a solid team in a long time. It's not Marty defense or Dick offense. It's a nice balanced team and Quinn fits what they do and has the tools to be quite effective for this system.

I'm not going to bitch too much when he takes Cassel's starting spot by the end of the preseason. It's an upgrade by any measure.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

It's a nice balanced team and Quinn fits what they do and has the tools to be quite effective for this system.
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He's a borderline NFL player. He probably shouldn't even be in the league.

[BoneKrusher]

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

He's a borderline NFL player. He probably shouldn't even be in the league.

we shall see, i think Romeo was the one who handpicked him this past off season and he knew what he was doing when the Chiefs got him.

at least, it gives all the anti-Cassel fans hope where there was none.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

Romeo was the one who handpicked him this past off season and he knew what he was doing when the Chiefs got him.

Romeo Crennel, that QB expert.

He selected Brady Quinn like fine champagne.

[BoneKrusher]

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

Romeo Crennel, that QB expert.

He selected Brady Quinn like fine champagne.

i didnt say that, i said he knows Quinn is a better QB than Cassel.

this is his last chance at coaching in the NFL and he picked a QB he'll go to the top with or fall to the bottomless pit with.

if i'm RC that QB damn sure ain't Matt Cassel.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

this is his last chance at coaching in the NFL and he picked a QB he'll go to the top with or fall to the bottomless pit with.
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If true, Crennel is one dumb mother****er. Dumber than I gave him credit for.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

i didnt say that, i said he knows Quinn is a better QB than Cassel.

this is his last chance at coaching in the NFL and he picked a QB he'll go to the top with or fall to the bottomless pit with.

if i'm RC that QB damn sure ain't Matt Cassel.

**** that.

Romeo knows one thing about Quinn from their time in Cleveland, that he sucked bad enough that he had to be pulled.

Quinn was terrible.

Every bit as bad as Palko (but with a stronger arm) or Tebow (without the magic)

[BoneKrusher]

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

Romeo Crennel, that QB expert.

He selected Brady Quinn like fine champagne.

i'll be here all week.

[Ace Gunner]

the chiefs let the best QB of this latest team go to dallas. orton was way ahead of the curve compared to the remaining group. brady quinn was a 1st rounder because he did play in a pro style offense during college, and he did okay with it. but, guys are never going to be wide open like it is in college and I don't see where quinn has been any more effective in the NFL than cassel.

but, if experience makes QB's better over time, he should be able to pull ahead of the inexperienced cassel.

a lot has been made of cassel's lacking collegiate career, it does make a diff imo and it makes a diff that quinn played in a pro style offense during college.

but, and this is really important to me with regard to the passing game and specifically the QB position, I don't see the fire from either player, the command and venom of a stryker, a sniper and conductor of field position.

this staff can blow smoke for only a lil bit longer imo. they'll keep their job through this and next season, but if they can't win a playoff game by the next season, they will be expendable. actually, I doubt RC will want to coach after 2013, he's getting up there in age and doesn't move real well as is.

anyway, it would be cool to see quinn beat cassel or take over with success because from what is coming out from otas right now, stanzi needs another season before he can compete to become the manzi and really, if brady quinn wants to stay in the NFL his time is now.

quinn is entering year five. if he paid attn this past 4 years, he should be mature enough to compete with cassel. he certainly has the tools.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

He's a borderline NFL player. He probably shouldn't even be in the league.

I don't know. Quinn has been one of the biggest mysteries to me as an NFL player. Everyone talks about his exceptional work ethic. He's prototype size. Came from a pro system. Loves the game. Has a nice arm.

I can't explain why he isn't a starter somewhere other than he ran into some bad breaks up to this point:

Rookie in 2007. Up to that point, it was rare to see a rookie quarterback start in the league. Derek Anderson has a pretty good season and is named the starter for 2008, but goes in the tank eight games in and Quinn gets the nod. In game two of his starting career he breaks his finger and he's out for the season. 2009, Crennel gets fired and it was a literal mess under Mangini - really defined the term "quarterback controversy." 2010 gets traded to Denver, where Orton is already the incumbent QB. 2011 - Tebowmania.

I just really dont' think he's ever been given a legit chance to prove if he's capable of being a starting NFL QB despite having all the intangibles.

He'll get his chance here in KC. Might not ever see a better chance actually as it seems apparent that the coaching staff wants to see a QB competition and the front office has to understand the outside/fans perceptions of Matt Cassel as the starter.

I think he's got the potential to be a pretty good NFL QB, especially in this system with this team and probably understands that opportunities like this are few and far between at this point of his career.

I hope he puts it together. I'm pulling for him at this point as I think he's the best chance the Chiefs have in terms of fielding a team that has the potential to actually win a playoff game and then see where it goes.

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I don't know. Quinn has been one of the biggest mysteries to me as an NFL player. Everyone talks about his exceptional work ethic. He's prototype size. Came from a pro system. Loves the game. Has a nice arm.

I can't explain why he isn't a starter somewhere other than he ran into some bad breaks up to this point:

Rookie in 2007. Up to that point, it was rare to see a rookie quarterback start in the league. Derek Anderson has a pretty good season and is named the starter for 2009, but goes in the tank eight games in and Quinn gets the nod. In game two of his starting career he breaks his finger and he's out for the season. 2009, Crennel gets fired and it was a literal mess under Mangini - really defined the term "quarterback controversy." 2010 gets traded to Denver, where Orton is already the incumbent QB. 2011 - Tebowmania.

I just really dont' think he's ever been given a legit chance to prove if he's capable of being a starting NFL QB despite having all the intangibles.

He'll get his chance here in KC. Might not ever see a better chance actually as it seems apparent that the coaching staff wants to see a QB competition and the front office has to understand the outside/fans perceptions of Matt Cassel as the starter.

I think he's got the potential to be a pretty good NFL QB, especially in this system with this team and probably understands that opportunities like this are few and far between at this point of his career.

I hope he puts it together. I'm pulling for him at this point as I think he's the best chance the Chiefs have in terms of fielding a team that has the potential to actually win a playoff game and then see where it goes.

I can't believe you all are so blind it's ****ing ridiculous. If he went to any other team, yall would be saying the same shit I'm saying. And that's damn sad that because he's a Chief, yall got blinders on.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Setsuna

I can't believe you all are so blind it's ****ing ridiculous. If he went to any other team, yall would be saying the same shit I'm saying. And that's damn sad that because he's a Chief, yall got blinders on.

I've always thought he wasnt given a fair shake in Cleveland.

I was surprised he was let go for so little.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Setsuna

I can't believe you all are so blind it's ****ing ridiculous. If he went to any other team, yall would be saying the same shit I'm saying. And that's damn sad that because he's a Chief, yall got blinders on.

No, I wouldn't.

Like I said, Quinn has everything you want in an NFL QB. Protosize. Nice arm. Great work ethic. He's got a nice touch on the ball.

I'm glad he's here. I'm not saying he's Joe Montana. I'm saying that he's potentially a better option than we've had at the QB position since Trent Green, and maybe better.

You can't judge him on 12 games and there were the reasons that I pointed out as to why he hasn't been given a chance. He gets that chance now.

However, if you want to implode about having him on the team - go right ahead. Maybe Cassel has a really good summer camp and preseason and is yet again the starter and you don't have to worry about Quinn being under center for the Chiefs. I'm sure that will make you happy.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I don't know. Quinn has been one of the biggest mysteries to me as an NFL player. Everyone talks about his exceptional work ethic. He's prototype size. Came from a pro system. Loves the game. Has a nice arm.

I can't explain why he isn't a starter somewhere other than he ran into some bad breaks up to this point:

Rookie in 2007. Up to that point, it was rare to see a rookie quarterback start in the league. Derek Anderson has a pretty good season and is named the starter for 2008, but goes in the tank eight games in and Quinn gets the nod. In game two of his starting career he breaks his finger and he's out for the season. 2009, Crennel gets fired and it was a literal mess under Mangini - really defined the term "quarterback controversy." 2010 gets traded to Denver, where Orton is already the incumbent QB. 2011 - Tebowmania.

I just really dont' think he's ever been given a legit chance to prove if he's capable of being a starting NFL QB despite having all the intangibles.

He'll get his chance here in KC. Might not ever see a better chance actually as it seems apparent that the coaching staff wants to see a QB competition and the front office has to understand the outside/fans perceptions of Matt Cassel as the starter.

I think he's got the potential to be a pretty good NFL QB, especially in this system with this team and probably understands that opportunities like this are few and far between at this point of his career.

I hope he puts it together. I'm pulling for him at this point as I think he's the best chance the Chiefs have in terms of fielding a team that has the potential to actually win a playoff game and then see where it goes.

I think thats why he turned down more money from other teams. He knows KC is his best chance at success. He knows he can be successful here and in the long run make even more money.