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Old 01-16-2013, 06:48 PM   #1
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The wonderful 2008 Miami Dolphins(810 radio) model of LT in the first and QB in the second:

#1 - Jake Long
#32 - Philip Merling
#57 - Chad Henne

So much better than taking a Matt Ryan at #3 or Flacco at #18

Well said.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:12 PM   #2
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The wonderful 2008 Miami Dolphins(810 radio) model of LT in the first and QB in the second:

#1 - Jake Long
#32 - Philip Merling
#57 - Chad Henne

So much better than taking a Matt Ryan at #3 or Flacco at #18
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in what way are the Jaguars worse off than us for having drafted Gabbert?

anyone?

we're drafting #1 even though we avoided the incredible risk of drafting a QB....

the idea that drafting a QB is risky in some special way that other positions are not is pure grade bullshit...
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:11 PM   #3
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I'll put all of the CP minds at ease. Your GM says, "Best Player Available" right? Well let's look at the Chiefs' roster. What is the most inept, and talentless position you have on the team?.....And who is the BPA from that position in this draft?.......Ergo Geno Smith will be picked #1 overall.

Does any of this make sense?
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:39 PM   #4
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If the Dolphins were not a laughing stock as it is. Taking Matt Ryan #1 in 2008 instead of a LT they are going to let go in FA because he is already done. Then drafting a QB who is now the QB of the Jags in the second round? Oh the embarrassment...
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:45 PM   #5
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If the Dolphins were not a laughing stock as it is. Taking Matt Ryan #1 in 2008 instead of a LT they are going to let go in FA because he is already done. Then drafting a QB who is now the QB of the Jags in the second round? Oh the embarrassment...

One word: Bill Parcells
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:33 PM   #6
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From what I've seen of Geno he has all the skills to be a true NFL QB.

Two unknowns:

Will he cassel his pants facing an NFL defense.
Is he game enough to do whatever it takes to overcome any deficiency that is exposed playing in the NFL.

If you think about it those two questions could be asked for any rookie NFL QB.

I've crunched the numbers and after much consideration, where this team is, think Dorsey and Reid will pick him in the 1st round and take that chance.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:04 PM   #7
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Will he cassel his pants facing an NFL defense.
I would be surprised if he did. He's taken plenty of hits.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:21 PM   #8
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Will he cassel his pants facing an NFL defense.
If this question needs to be asked, then no, he not worth the #1 overall pick.

That goes for ANY QB, not just Smith.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:37 PM   #9
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:53 PM   #10
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I think people are reading far too much into Dorsey's comments.

When did he say positional need in no way influences his draft philosophy?
How are we to know that Geno Smith isn't already at the top of Dorsey's board?

We're still more than 3 months out.
Geno's stock will rise with either the Combine or WVU's Pro Day.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:56 PM   #11
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I don't think Stafford has it up stairs. Seems he's just a frat boy, with a cannon for an arm.

And in regards to Bradford, I'm still fairly high on him. He needs some weapons to throw too, but I think he's got a decent chance to be successful, with his accuracy.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:57 PM   #12
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I don't think Stafford has it up stairs. Seems he's just a frat boy, with a cannon for an arm.

And in regards to Bradford, I'm still fairly high on him. He needs some weapons to throw too, but I think he's got a decent chance to be successful, with his accuracy.
My question is, though, was Bradford really a better prospect coming out than Geno Smith is right now?
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:07 PM   #13
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My question is, though, was Bradford really a better prospect coming out than Geno Smith is right now?
I wouldn't think so. I would say Bradford would be about neck-and-neck with Barkley.

Of course, I think a lot of the perception with this year's QBs has to do with wins and losses. So maybe Bradford still goes first, although he was injured the whole season.

In any case, I don't think this QB class is any weaker than in any other "normal" draft class. Nobody with Andrew Luck's pedigree should not mean nobody of any value at all. It's a double-standard. Other positions get artificially elevated, both OT and DT this year in my opinion, but quarterback value is almost always lowered. Maybe it's a holdover from the old CBA, when you really could hurt your franchise for a decade if you busted on a QB with a $60-million contract. But the idea of any other position being "safer" than QB is outmoded now, and people need to stop thinking that way.

(The league already has, with so many QBs going earlier in the last few drafts than they were projected by "experts")
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My question is, though, was Bradford really a better prospect coming out than Geno Smith is right now?
If Bradford was in this years class, would you take him 1 overall? Just knowing what we knew when he was a prospect?
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If Bradford was in this years class, would you take him 1 overall? Just knowing what we knew when he was a prospect?
I wasn't all that high on Bradford when he came out, and would not take him ahead of Smith or Wilson, and probably not ahead of Barkley.
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