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[patteeu]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

So you are saying Elway and Alex Smith have the same window?

I'm saying that QBs, like Smith, who achieve their maximum potential have a window that lasts longer than age 33. I'm not saying that Alex Smith will even have a window. That remains to be seen.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I'm saying that QBs, like Smith, who achieve their maximum potential have a window that lasts longer than age 33. I'm not saying that Alex Smith will even have a window. That remains to be seen.

You are one truly stupid mother****er.

I don't give a rat's ass if you are the greatest athlete to ever walk the face of the Earth, your skills are going to begin to diminish at the age of 32-33 years old.

Alex Smith is a marginal, mediocre player, and when his physical skillset begins to diminish, he is going to suck nearly as much ass at QB as you do as a poster.

Nearly impossible, but there it is.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by milkman

You are one truly stupid mother****er.

I don't give a rat's ass if you are the greatest athlete to ever walk the face of the Earth, your skills are going to begin to diminish at the age of 32-33 years old.

Alex Smith is a marginal, mediocre player, and when his physical skillset begins to diminish, he is going to suck nearly as much ass at QB as you do as a poster.

Nearly impossible, but there it is.

You don't have to be in your prime to have an open window. It's strawman after strawman with you.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by patteeu

You don't have to be in your prime to have an open window. It's strawman after strawman with you.

List me the superbowl quarterbacks that were over 33 years old.

Now, cross-reference those results with the guys that have the mediocre skill set that Alex Smith has.

Your argument has more holes in it than Swiss cheese.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by BossChief

List me the superbowl quarterbacks that were over 33 years old.

Now, cross-reference those results with the guys that have the mediocre skill set that Alex Smith has.

Your argument has more holes in it than Swiss cheese.

I wasn't sure how to get this point across to him, but that's a pretty damn good way.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by BossChief

List me the superbowl quarterbacks that were over 33 years old.

Now, cross-reference those results with the guys that have the mediocre skill set that Alex Smith has.

Your argument has more holes in it than Swiss cheese.

Let's back up just a second. What do you think my argument is? It has nothing to do with rarity or Alex Smith's demonstrated skills.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Let's back up just a second. What do you think my argument is? It has nothing to do with rarity or Alex Smith's demonstrated skills.

Your argument is that age is irrelevant to the "championship window" of a certain player.

Right or wrong?

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Your argument is that age is irrelevant to the "championship window" of a certain player.

Right or wrong?

Wrong. My argument is that the window for a franchise QB who fully realizes his potential doesn't close abruptly at the end of his prime years. In this case, I'm accepting for the sake of argument that Alex Smith's prime years will end at age 33, but the truth is that it's different for each QB. And, of course, injury can always be a factor.

And you don't have to be John Elway to have an open window beyond 33. Trent Green's window was open beyond 33. The Chiefs' lack of success during those twilight years had more to do with defense, the end of Priest Holmes, the retirement of Willie Roaf, and a career truncating injury than it had to do with Trent's 34th birthday. Alex Smith may never have the modest success of Trent Green (aside from the fact that he already has some playoff success), but he certainly has at least as much potential.