Your Chance To Participate In A New Football Phenomenon (Sandbox Simulations) - Page 176

**Rain Man** · 09:15 AM

I apologize if the mods think this is soliciting, and I guess it is, but at the same time it's beta testing a new product developed by long-time planeteers, and it's free.

cdcox and I have been developing a new football game for the thoughtful fan, where players build franchises and compete against each other. A description is below.

If you're interested, we're offering the game for free in Year 1 to Chiefsplanet members, with the goal of both giving the system a dry run and also hooking you like Phillip Morris. You can go to www.sandboxsimulations.com to sign up, and use the access code 6Lanier3.

Here's the overview:

Build and manage a full 53-player roster over multiple seasons, as an offseason activity to give you year-round football

Select your personnel to match your offensive and defensive scheme. Every position matters – even your blocking tight end.

Realistic and accurate simulations of league games based on head-to-head matchups against other teams in your league.

This is essentially a new concept in fantasy football that attempts to simulate as closely as possible the management of a real NFL franchise over a multi-year period. Unlike regular fantasy football, every position on the offense and defense contributes to your success or failure. On special teams, the punter, kicker, and kick returners matter.

In Sandbox Football you will build a team – an entire 53-man football team – via an initial draft, and will maintain it year after year in annual rookie drafts, trading periods, and free agency. You compete against teams in your league. In the first year of the game, before the start of the NFL season, you will build your roster by drafting veterans and rookies through separate drafts, and through trades with other teams in the league. Your roster is frozen at the beginning of the NFL season. During the real regular NFL season, you can focus on your traditional fantasy games and perhaps keep on eye on your Sandbox roster as our statistical models build the data on player performances. At the end of the regular NFL season, the Sandbox season begins. There will be 16 games in the season. In real time, the season will run about 8 weeks (2 alternate reality games per week).

Game outcomes will be simulated based on the performance of individual players during the just-completed NFL regular season. The simulations, developed by a PhD statistical expert, estimate how individual players will perform in the context of your alternate reality team competing head-to-head against other teams in the league and with the specific team that you have built. The simulations will consider the offensive and defensive schemes that you select. So you can build your roster to support a power running game or a high-flying passing attack. You can run a 3-4 or 4-3 base defense. You can run nickel formations or four-wide receiver sets. You can rotate your DL to keep them fresh.

The game is more about building a team than playing video games. So this isn't Madden, but you will have the ability to tweak your game plan to take the best advantage of your roster and the weaknesses of your opponent. Injuries are a factor in the game. If a player is unavailable during weeks 3 through 6 in the NFL, he is also unavailable during the same weeks in the alternate reality season. So roster depth matters. The game simulations are based on the most advanced statistics and the latest research regarding what matters in winning an NFL game. But, the outcomes of the games have a random component, just like real NFL games.

The calendar for the alternate reality league year will look something like this:
• Jan to Mid March: Alternate Reality regular season and playoffs.
• Mid-March to the beginning of NFL season: Roster building through trades, veteran draft (first year), free agent drafts (2nd year and beyond), and rookie draft.
• Beginning of NFL season to end of regular NFL season: Alternate reality league is dormant, but the NFL players are generating their performance stats for the up-coming AR league.
• Rinse and repeat.

Copyright Sandbox Simulations, all rights reserved.

We're still finalizing the cost structure, but this won't be an expensive game to play at all. It might range from a few bucks a year to $50 per year, depending on a few factors.

Year 1 will require a couple of days of drafting with rather high intensity, but we've got it set up where you can put your draft list together and do customized and automated drafting if you like.

So...go! Now! Time to get ready for the draft!

Note that we are still in beta testing, so things could change if we find problems in the system.

How Free Agency Works:

Free Agency will begin before the 2012 season after the rookie draft.

Our process is as follows for the 2012 season. In 2013 and beyond there will be minor changes as noted later.

1. We will unveil the list of available free agents so you can check out the talent pool.

2. If you look in "Standings", you will see that you have a salary account value of $1,300. You will use this to sign your veterans to contracts, sign your rookies to contracts, and (in a competitive bidding process) sign free agents to contracts.

The cost of a contract is as follows for players already on your roster (both veterans and rookies).

$0 - 1 season contract
$10 - 2 season contract
$22 - 3 season contract
$37 - 4 season contract
$55 - 5 season contract
$76 - 6 season contract
$100 - 7 season contract

You will sign your existing players to contracts using an interface that we will unveil shortly. If your 53-man roster is set you can spend your $1,300 on your current roster. However, it may be worthwhile to hold some money back so you can compete for free agents.

3. The free agency period begins.

Bidding for free agents will be open and competitive. As players come available, teams will be allowed to sign them if they are the high bidder. The contract length is automatically calculated by rounding down the bid to the chart below.

Contract Length (Seasons) Salary Points Bid
1 0 to 9
2 10 to 21
3 22 to 36
4 37 to 54
5 55 to 75
6 76 to 99
7 100 or more

For example, if you submit the winning bid for a player at a price of 25 salary points, that player becomes yours under a 3-year contract. If you submit a bid for 35 points and win, it’s also a 3-year contract. If you submit a bid for 38 points, it’s a 4-year contract. If you submit a bid for 120 points, it’s a 7-year contract.

For the 2012 free agency period, we will enforce the 53-man rule. You will need to cut down to 53 players before the free agency period starts, and if you sign a player to go above 53, you will need to cut a player to stay within the roster limit. NOTE: DON'T CUT YET UNLESS YOU WANT TO. WE'RE STILL FINALIZING THE SYSTEM AND WANT TO BE SURE THAT THIS RULE WORKS IN 2012.

4. Ending Bidding and Ending Free Agency.

Bids on an individual player will begin once the first player places a bid. For the 2012 season that bid must be $1 or more. Bidding ends when the existing high bid had not been raised for 72 hours. At that point, the high-bid team is awarded the player under the contract terms described in Step 3.

The free agency period in 2012 will end once there have been no bids on any players for 72 hours.

5. Unused Salary Points

If you do not use all of your salary points in a given year, they will roll over from year to year. This is experimental and we'll have to see how it works. If it doesn't work, they'll expire each year, or maybe a portion of the points can roll over. Right now, assume they all roll over.

6. Salary Points and Roster Management

In the Sandbox system, salary points and the salary cap are used only for acquiring players. You will never have to track the number of salary points “on your roster” and you will never have to cut a player for salary cap reasons.

Additionally, you are not obligated to keep a player for the full length of his contract. You can cut him or trade him at any time. However, recognize that it’s a waste of salary points to cut or trade a player before the end of his contract. But it doesn't hamstring you going forward - it's just past money that you wasted.

7. Free Agency and Contract Length - Retaining Your Current Players

When a player reaches the end of their contract, they go back into the free agency pool and teams will bid for their services. You are eligible to bid on them to get them back, just like you can bid on any free agents.

There is one exception to the rule of free agents going into the free agency pool, as follows:

• At the end of the bidding process, you have the opportunity to re-sign your own players by outbidding the high bidder. Your bid must be the minimum points to increase their contract period by a year over the high bid. (Example: your player goes to free agency, and another team bids 50 points for him, which equates to a 4-year contract. You can keep the player by paying 55 points for him, which is the minimum amount for a 5-year contract.) If the high bidder offered a contract of 100 points or more (7-years), you can keep the player by bidding 10% more points than the high bid.

8. Free Agency and Trades

If you trade for a player, their contract length is a consideration. Trading for a player with 6 years left on his contract will give you his services for that amount of time (unless you cut him or trade him, or he retires). Trading for a player with 1 year left on his contract means that he’ll go back into the free agency pool at the end of the season. (Of course, you can still retain him via Step 7.)

9. Future Years

In future years, the process will be identical to that shown above, with the following exceptions.

a. Because you will have a lot of veteran players under contract, you won't need $1,300. You'll get a new annual allotment of signing dollars. We're still working on the exact amount, but it looks like it'll be between $500 and $600.

b. In the 2012 season, we will introduce all free agents at once to catch up. In the 2013 season and beyond, the free agency period will occur during the actual NFL season. We will sprinkle the free agents in one division at a time over the course of the season. (The divisions may be randomly selected or we may release a calendar. It doesn't matter that much.) This system should be interesting because some free agents will come available early in the season when you don't know their performance for the year - greater risk, greater reward - while other free agents will come available later in the season when you know what their performance will be, but so does everyone else.

c. In the 2013 season and beyond, you will be able to retain more than 53 players through the rookie draft and the main free agency period. You will then have a cutdown period to get to 53 and we will have a final free agency period where you can sign any players who have been cut. In that final period you will have to enforce a 53-man roster, so if you sign a player you have to cut one.

10. When you think about the schedule in 2013 and beyond, it will go like this:

a. Sandbox season goes from February through April.
b. Rookie draft in May. No 53-man limit.
c. Free agency from (likely) September through December, with free agents sprinkled in throughout that period.
d. January. Roster cuts to 53.
e. Late January. Final free agency period to flesh out rosters and sign players cut in Step d.
f. New Sandbox season begins.

**Rain Man** · 08-06-2012, 09:25 PM

Heartbreaker in Richmond in League 1. Heartbreaker. We missed a field goal and gave up two touchdowns in the final two minutes to give away a key game. A win would have clinched the division, and the loss dropped us to second place. That hurt.

Hammock Parties · 08-06-2012, 09:34 PM

My defense owned Rain Man this year, that's all I have to say about Duluth.

Onto the game!

Big Jim K with his first TD of the year.

Quote:

2nd Q 12:36 2nd and 5 Duluth 20

Tom Brady passes complete to Jim Kleinsasser for a gain of 21 yards. Touchdown, conversion

Duluth 7, Denver 10

I would think, with Philip Rivers, the AI would go for it here. This was very Herm Edwards.

Quote:

4th Q 2:02 4th and 2 Duluth 21

Brian Moorman punts 51 yards, returned for 4 yards by Brandon Banks Two minute warning.

Duluth 14, Denver 23

I upped my run percentage this week and it may have paid off in a close game.

Reggie Bush - 22 carries, 116 yards, 3 catches, 35 yards
Ahmad Bradshaw - 8 carries, 17 yards, 1 catch, 11 yards
Ricky Williams - 3 carries, 4 yards

Tom Brady - 15 of 26 for 206 yards, 2 TD

Interestingly enough, my WR were completely shut down, which hasn't happened this year I don't think. Tom did a nice job spreading the ball around.

Roddy White - 1 catch, 12 yards
Santonio Holmes - 3 catches, 21 yards
Torrey Smith - 1 catch, 21 yards
Kellen Winslow - 3 catches, 36 yards
Brandon Banks - 1 catch, 33 yards, 1 TD
Jim Kleinsasser - 2 catches, 37 yards, 1 TD SECRET WEAPON

Only one sack and one turnover in this fairly defensive game. Interesting sim.

Now I have to haul my broken team up to Anchorage for a game to decide the #1 seed.

Interestingly enough, Ahmad Bradshaw is the biggest POS on my team in terms of statistical production, so Ricky Williams gets the start in Week 16 with Reggie Bush down.

A fine season for sandbox Reggie with 270 carries, 1,576 yards and 11 TD. Added 27 catches for 264 yards and 5 TD.

**Rain Man** · 08-06-2012, 09:50 PM

As a very minor point, it usually says, "Turned over on downs" in this situation. For some reason it didn't here.

Seattle 6, Anchorage 24
Seattle
4th Q 3:07 1st and 10 Seattle 6 Joe Flacco passes incomplete to Lance Moore.
4th Q 3:00 2nd and 10 Seattle 6 Joe Flacco passes incomplete to Eddie Royal.
4th Q 2:53 3rd and 10 Seattle 6 Joe Flacco passes complete to Steve Slaton for a gain of 10 yards.
4th Q 2:29 4th and inches Seattle 15 Joe Flacco passes incomplete to free agent.
Seattle 6, Anchorage 24

Anchorage
4th Q 2:19 1st and 10 Seattle 15 Greg McElroy passes, batted at the line of scrimage incomplete.

**Rain Man** · 08-06-2012, 09:52 PM

In League 2, Anchorage got a huge win behind our new QB Greg McElroy. We needed that win.

**Rain Man** · 08-06-2012, 09:59 PM

I'm not sure if I disagree, but it seems like we would've gone for the field goal in this situation.

St. Louis 3, Columbia 16
St. Louis
2nd Q 2:06 1st and 10 Columbia 31 Kyle Orton passes complete to Owen Marecic for a gain of 6 yards. Two minute warning.
2nd Q 1:58 2nd and 4 Columbia 24 Kyle Orton (pressured) passes incomplete to Maurice Jones-Drew.
2nd Q 1:50 3rd and 4 Columbia 24 Kyle Orton passes incomplete to Evan Moore.
2nd Q 1:43 4th and 4 Columbia 24 Kyle Orton (pressured) passes complete to Steve L. Smith for a gain of 2 yards. Turned over on downs
St. Louis 3, Columbia 16

**Rain Man** · 08-06-2012, 10:04 PM

In League 2, Columbia came on with a huge defensive effort to stuff division-leading St. Louis and climb back into the race. St. Louis had a disappointing performance with a complete inability to run the ball against the stout Columbia defense, and suddenly finds themselves in peril for the playoffs.

**Rain Man** · 08-06-2012, 10:10 PM

This is a rare thing, but I think there has to be an offensive play here, right? Does the clock start if the returner catches the ball and kneels for a touchback? I don't think so, but I'm not sure.

Independence 0, Kansas City 10
Independence
2nd Q 0:05 Robbie Gould kicks 70 yards. No return. Touchback
Independence 0, Kansas City 10

Independence
3rd Q 15:00 Robbie Gould kicks 70 yards. No return. Touchback
3rd Q 14:52 1st and 10 Independence 20 Shonn Greene rushes for 3 yards.

**Rain Man** · 08-06-2012, 10:14 PM

Independence laid an egg in League 2, when a win would have been huge. No offense at all. This was a bad week for most of my teams. Ugh.

**cdcox** · 08-06-2012, 10:26 PM

Individual defensive stats related to sacks and interceptions now availalbe. We'll get tackles up next year, along with some additional interesting defensive stats.

**Rain Man** · 08-06-2012, 10:43 PM

The playoff picture in League 2:

Spoiler!

**Rain Man** · 08-06-2012, 11:27 PM

The playoff picture in League 1:

Spoiler!

**Rain Man** · 08-06-2012, 11:31 PM

Richmond's MVP may be cornerback Curtis Brown, who has recorded 12 interceptions so far this season. It seemed like he was having a good year, but that's amazing.

**Dartgod** · 08-07-2012, 06:51 AM

****ing Rex Grossman!

Hammock Parties · 08-07-2012, 07:04 AM

Rain Man, how many points do I need to beat Anchorage by to win the division?

**Rain Man** · 08-07-2012, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Rain Man, how many points do I need to beat Anchorage by to win the division?

[Edited to make me not look stupid.]

And Duluth is still the best team in the division.

08-08-2011, 02:01 PM
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3328491 VARSITY	Your Chance To Participate In A New Football Phenomenon (Sandbox Simulations) I apologize if the mods think this is soliciting, and I guess it is, but at the same time it's beta testing a new product developed by long-time planeteers, and it's free. cdcox and I have been developing a new football game for the thoughtful fan, where players build franchises and compete against each other. A description is below. If you're interested, we're offering the game for free in Year 1 to Chiefsplanet members, with the goal of both giving the system a dry run and also hooking you like Phillip Morris. You can go to www.sandboxsimulations.com to sign up, and use the access code 6Lanier3. Here's the overview: Build and manage a full 53-player roster over multiple seasons, as an offseason activity to give you year-round football Select your personnel to match your offensive and defensive scheme. Every position matters – even your blocking tight end. Realistic and accurate simulations of league games based on head-to-head matchups against other teams in your league. This is essentially a new concept in fantasy football that attempts to simulate as closely as possible the management of a real NFL franchise over a multi-year period. Unlike regular fantasy football, every position on the offense and defense contributes to your success or failure. On special teams, the punter, kicker, and kick returners matter. In Sandbox Football you will build a team – an entire 53-man football team – via an initial draft, and will maintain it year after year in annual rookie drafts, trading periods, and free agency. You compete against teams in your league. In the first year of the game, before the start of the NFL season, you will build your roster by drafting veterans and rookies through separate drafts, and through trades with other teams in the league. Your roster is frozen at the beginning of the NFL season. During the real regular NFL season, you can focus on your traditional fantasy games and perhaps keep on eye on your Sandbox roster as our statistical models build the data on player performances. At the end of the regular NFL season, the Sandbox season begins. There will be 16 games in the season. In real time, the season will run about 8 weeks (2 alternate reality games per week). Game outcomes will be simulated based on the performance of individual players during the just-completed NFL regular season. The simulations, developed by a PhD statistical expert, estimate how individual players will perform in the context of your alternate reality team competing head-to-head against other teams in the league and with the specific team that you have built. The simulations will consider the offensive and defensive schemes that you select. So you can build your roster to support a power running game or a high-flying passing attack. You can run a 3-4 or 4-3 base defense. You can run nickel formations or four-wide receiver sets. You can rotate your DL to keep them fresh. The game is more about building a team than playing video games. So this isn't Madden, but you will have the ability to tweak your game plan to take the best advantage of your roster and the weaknesses of your opponent. Injuries are a factor in the game. If a player is unavailable during weeks 3 through 6 in the NFL, he is also unavailable during the same weeks in the alternate reality season. So roster depth matters. The game simulations are based on the most advanced statistics and the latest research regarding what matters in winning an NFL game. But, the outcomes of the games have a random component, just like real NFL games. The calendar for the alternate reality league year will look something like this: • Jan to Mid March: Alternate Reality regular season and playoffs. • Mid-March to the beginning of NFL season: Roster building through trades, veteran draft (first year), free agent drafts (2nd year and beyond), and rookie draft. • Beginning of NFL season to end of regular NFL season: Alternate reality league is dormant, but the NFL players are generating their performance stats for the up-coming AR league. • Rinse and repeat. Copyright Sandbox Simulations, all rights reserved. We're still finalizing the cost structure, but this won't be an expensive game to play at all. It might range from a few bucks a year to $50 per year, depending on a few factors. Year 1 will require a couple of days of drafting with rather high intensity, but we've got it set up where you can put your draft list together and do customized and automated drafting if you like. So...go! Now! Time to get ready for the draft! Note that we are still in beta testing, so things could change if we find problems in the system. How Free Agency Works: Free Agency will begin before the 2012 season after the rookie draft. Our process is as follows for the 2012 season. In 2013 and beyond there will be minor changes as noted later. 1. We will unveil the list of available free agents so you can check out the talent pool. 2. If you look in "Standings", you will see that you have a salary account value of $1,300. You will use this to sign your veterans to contracts, sign your rookies to contracts, and (in a competitive bidding process) sign free agents to contracts. The cost of a contract is as follows for players already on your roster (both veterans and rookies). $0 - 1 season contract $10 - 2 season contract $22 - 3 season contract $37 - 4 season contract $55 - 5 season contract $76 - 6 season contract $100 - 7 season contract You will sign your existing players to contracts using an interface that we will unveil shortly. If your 53-man roster is set you can spend your $1,300 on your current roster. However, it may be worthwhile to hold some money back so you can compete for free agents. 3. The free agency period begins. Bidding for free agents will be open and competitive. As players come available, teams will be allowed to sign them if they are the high bidder. The contract length is automatically calculated by rounding down the bid to the chart below. Contract Length (Seasons) Salary Points Bid 1 0 to 9 2 10 to 21 3 22 to 36 4 37 to 54 5 55 to 75 6 76 to 99 7 100 or more For example, if you submit the winning bid for a player at a price of 25 salary points, that player becomes yours under a 3-year contract. If you submit a bid for 35 points and win, it’s also a 3-year contract. If you submit a bid for 38 points, it’s a 4-year contract. If you submit a bid for 120 points, it’s a 7-year contract. For the 2012 free agency period, we will enforce the 53-man rule. You will need to cut down to 53 players before the free agency period starts, and if you sign a player to go above 53, you will need to cut a player to stay within the roster limit. NOTE: DON'T CUT YET UNLESS YOU WANT TO. WE'RE STILL FINALIZING THE SYSTEM AND WANT TO BE SURE THAT THIS RULE WORKS IN 2012. 4. Ending Bidding and Ending Free Agency. Bids on an individual player will begin once the first player places a bid. For the 2012 season that bid must be $1 or more. Bidding ends when the existing high bid had not been raised for 72 hours. At that point, the high-bid team is awarded the player under the contract terms described in Step 3. The free agency period in 2012 will end once there have been no bids on any players for 72 hours. 5. Unused Salary Points If you do not use all of your salary points in a given year, they will roll over from year to year. This is experimental and we'll have to see how it works. If it doesn't work, they'll expire each year, or maybe a portion of the points can roll over. Right now, assume they all roll over. 6. Salary Points and Roster Management In the Sandbox system, salary points and the salary cap are used only for acquiring players. You will never have to track the number of salary points “on your roster” and you will never have to cut a player for salary cap reasons. Additionally, you are not obligated to keep a player for the full length of his contract. You can cut him or trade him at any time. However, recognize that it’s a waste of salary points to cut or trade a player before the end of his contract. But it doesn't hamstring you going forward - it's just past money that you wasted. 7. Free Agency and Contract Length - Retaining Your Current Players When a player reaches the end of their contract, they go back into the free agency pool and teams will bid for their services. You are eligible to bid on them to get them back, just like you can bid on any free agents. There is one exception to the rule of free agents going into the free agency pool, as follows: • At the end of the bidding process, you have the opportunity to re-sign your own players by outbidding the high bidder. Your bid must be the minimum points to increase their contract period by a year over the high bid. (Example: your player goes to free agency, and another team bids 50 points for him, which equates to a 4-year contract. You can keep the player by paying 55 points for him, which is the minimum amount for a 5-year contract.) If the high bidder offered a contract of 100 points or more (7-years), you can keep the player by bidding 10% more points than the high bid. 8. Free Agency and Trades If you trade for a player, their contract length is a consideration. Trading for a player with 6 years left on his contract will give you his services for that amount of time (unless you cut him or trade him, or he retires). Trading for a player with 1 year left on his contract means that he’ll go back into the free agency pool at the end of the season. (Of course, you can still retain him via Step 7.) 9. Future Years In future years, the process will be identical to that shown above, with the following exceptions. a. Because you will have a lot of veteran players under contract, you won't need $1,300. You'll get a new annual allotment of signing dollars. We're still working on the exact amount, but it looks like it'll be between $500 and $600. b. In the 2012 season, we will introduce all free agents at once to catch up. In the 2013 season and beyond, the free agency period will occur during the actual NFL season. We will sprinkle the free agents in one division at a time over the course of the season. (The divisions may be randomly selected or we may release a calendar. It doesn't matter that much.) This system should be interesting because some free agents will come available early in the season when you don't know their performance for the year - greater risk, greater reward - while other free agents will come available later in the season when you know what their performance will be, but so does everyone else. c. In the 2013 season and beyond, you will be able to retain more than 53 players through the rookie draft and the main free agency period. You will then have a cutdown period to get to 53 and we will have a final free agency period where you can sign any players who have been cut. In that final period you will have to enforce a 53-man roster, so if you sign a player you have to cut one. 10. When you think about the schedule in 2013 and beyond, it will go like this: a. Sandbox season goes from February through April. b. Rookie draft in May. No 53-man limit. c. Free agency from (likely) September through December, with free agents sprinkled in throughout that period. d. January. Roster cuts to 53. e. Late January. Final free agency period to flesh out rosters and sign players cut in Step d. f. New Sandbox season begins. Last edited by Rain Man; 05-27-2013 at 09:15 AM..
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08-06-2012, 09:25 PM	#2626
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3328491 VARSITY	Heartbreaker in Richmond in League 1. Heartbreaker. We missed a field goal and gave up two touchdowns in the final two minutes to give away a key game. A win would have clinched the division, and the loss dropped us to second place. That hurt. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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08-06-2012, 09:50 PM	#2628
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3328491 VARSITY	As a very minor point, it usually says, "Turned over on downs" in this situation. For some reason it didn't here. Seattle 6, Anchorage 24 Seattle 4th Q 3:07 1st and 10 Seattle 6 Joe Flacco passes incomplete to Lance Moore. 4th Q 3:00 2nd and 10 Seattle 6 Joe Flacco passes incomplete to Eddie Royal. 4th Q 2:53 3rd and 10 Seattle 6 Joe Flacco passes complete to Steve Slaton for a gain of 10 yards. 4th Q 2:29 4th and inches Seattle 15 Joe Flacco passes incomplete to free agent. Seattle 6, Anchorage 24 Anchorage 4th Q 2:19 1st and 10 Seattle 15 Greg McElroy passes, batted at the line of scrimage incomplete. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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08-06-2012, 09:52 PM	#2629
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3328491 VARSITY	In League 2, Anchorage got a huge win behind our new QB Greg McElroy. We needed that win. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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08-06-2012, 09:59 PM	#2630
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3328491 VARSITY	I'm not sure if I disagree, but it seems like we would've gone for the field goal in this situation. St. Louis 3, Columbia 16 St. Louis 2nd Q 2:06 1st and 10 Columbia 31 Kyle Orton passes complete to Owen Marecic for a gain of 6 yards. Two minute warning. 2nd Q 1:58 2nd and 4 Columbia 24 Kyle Orton (pressured) passes incomplete to Maurice Jones-Drew. 2nd Q 1:50 3rd and 4 Columbia 24 Kyle Orton passes incomplete to Evan Moore. 2nd Q 1:43 4th and 4 Columbia 24 Kyle Orton (pressured) passes complete to Steve L. Smith for a gain of 2 yards. Turned over on downs St. Louis 3, Columbia 16 __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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08-06-2012, 10:04 PM	#2631
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3328491 VARSITY	In League 2, Columbia came on with a huge defensive effort to stuff division-leading St. Louis and climb back into the race. St. Louis had a disappointing performance with a complete inability to run the ball against the stout Columbia defense, and suddenly finds themselves in peril for the playoffs. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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08-06-2012, 10:10 PM	#2632
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3328491 VARSITY	This is a rare thing, but I think there has to be an offensive play here, right? Does the clock start if the returner catches the ball and kneels for a touchback? I don't think so, but I'm not sure. Independence 0, Kansas City 10 Independence 2nd Q 0:05 Robbie Gould kicks 70 yards. No return. Touchback Independence 0, Kansas City 10 Independence 3rd Q 15:00 Robbie Gould kicks 70 yards. No return. Touchback 3rd Q 14:52 1st and 10 Independence 20 Shonn Greene rushes for 3 yards. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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08-06-2012, 10:14 PM	#2633
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3328491 VARSITY	Independence laid an egg in League 2, when a win would have been huge. No offense at all. This was a bad week for most of my teams. Ugh. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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08-06-2012, 10:26 PM	#2634
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2351769	Individual defensive stats related to sacks and interceptions now availalbe. We'll get tackles up next year, along with some additional interesting defensive stats.
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08-06-2012, 10:43 PM	#2635
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3328491 VARSITY	The playoff picture in League 2: Spoiler! Lunar Conference Clinched division: Oklahoma City (clinched playoff spot), Topeka (clinched playoff spot) Control destiny for division: Fort Collins (clinched playoff spot) Battling for division: Anchorage (clinched playoff spot) Control destiny for wildcard: (Anchorage or Fort Collins), Round Rock Battling for wildcard: Provo, Little Rock Clinched playoff spots: Oklahoma City, Topeka, Fort Collins, Anchorage Battling for playoff spot: Round rock, Provo, Little Rock Solar Conference: Clinched division: (None) Control destiny for division: Pompano Beach (clinched playoff spot), Rancho Cucamonga (clinched playoff spot), Columbia Battling for division: Corona Lights (clinched playoff spot), Pembroke Pines, St. Louis, Independence Control destiny for wildcard: Corona Lights (clinched playoff spot), Pembroke Pines Battling for wildcard: St. Louis, Independence, Pomona Clinched playoff spots: Rancho Cucamonga, Pompano Beach, Corona Battling for playoff spot: Columbia, Pembroke Pines, St. Louis, Independence, Pomona __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit. Last edited by Rain Man; 08-06-2012 at 11:12 PM..
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08-06-2012, 11:27 PM	#2636
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3328491 VARSITY	The playoff picture in League 1: Spoiler! Lunar Conference Clinched division: Wichita (clinched playoff spot) Control destiny for division: Anchorage (clinched playoff spot), Clearwater (clinched playoff spot) Battling for division: Denver, Austin (clinched playoff spot) Control destiny for wildcard: Denver (clinched playoff spot), Austin (clinched playoff spot) Battling for wildcard: (None) Clinched playoff spots: Anchorage, Clearwater, Wichita, Denver, Austin Battling for playoff spot: (None) Solar Conference: Clinched division: Independence (clinched playoff spot) Control destiny for division: Fort Wayne, Ventura Battling for division: Richmond, Las Vegas, Pittsburgh Control destiny for wildcard: Richmond, Las Vegas Battling for wildcard: Pittsburgh, Kansas City Clinched playoff spots: Independence Battling for playoff spot: Ventura, Fort Wayne, Richmond, Las Vegas, Pittsburgh, Kansas City Ventura and Fort Wayne have almost certainly made the playoffs, but it's barely possible that they could get knocked out. Richmond has a strong chance of making the playoffs, but it's feasible that they could get knocked out. Las Vegas and Pittsburgh are in a battle for the final spot. Kansas City is mathematically alive, but it would take a miracle. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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08-06-2012, 11:31 PM	#2637
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3328491 VARSITY	Richmond's MVP may be cornerback Curtis Brown, who has recorded 12 interceptions so far this season. It seemed like he was having a good year, but that's amazing. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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08-07-2012, 06:51 AM	#2638
Dartgod Wasted away again... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: in Margaritaville Casino cash: $7410000	****ing Rex Grossman! __________________ If you shed a tear for me, please make it a tear of joy. -Joe Tracy (Nzoner) . .
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08-07-2012, 07:04 AM	#2639
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4720478	Rain Man, how many points do I need to beat Anchorage by to win the division? __________________ Chiefs game films
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