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Old 01-07-2013, 10:00 AM   #1
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By the way, if we go with the under defense, either Hali or Houston will be playing DE but not both.

As others have stated, it uses 30 front personnel.

Chris Clemons is only about 260 but the guy opposite him runs like 320.
If this is true, Hali is the natural fit...he's played DE before and he's not the ascending pass rusher. I want Houston able to fly and crush Manning's neck into the ground...
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:59 AM   #2
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well, that sounds better than father time trying to run the tampa 2...

i'm still jumpy from PPSD....post-pioli stress syndrome
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:10 AM   #3
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well, that sounds better than father time trying to run the tampa 2...

i'm still jumpy from PPSD....post-'Team-killer' Pioli stress syndrome
It's going to take a while to accept competence from the staff and FO of this organization, should this actually prove true.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:00 AM   #4
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I think we have the DT's for it to work well. Poe as a 1-Tech and Dorsey (if we re-sign him) as the 3-Tech. This would be the best fit for Dorsey IMO... Remember Warren Sapp was tremendous under Kiffin as a 3-Tech. Rod Marinelli would be great for our DL!

Hali would likely play WDE and Houston would play the SLB spot that resembles as 3-4 SOLB.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:02 AM   #5
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Is the Denver set up considered a 4-3 under?
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:08 AM   #6
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So then he'd roll with a d-line like this?

Poe - Dorsey - Hali?
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:11 AM   #7
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So then he'd roll with a d-line like this?

Poe - Dorsey - Hali?
In a 4-3 under, one of your 3-4 OLBs has his hand in the dirt.

As it stands TODAY (and remember, both Dorsey and Jackson have contract situations), it would be:

Jackson - Poe - Dorsey - Hali
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:13 AM   #8
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In a 4-3 under, one of your 3-4 OLBs has his hand in the dirt.

As it stands TODAY (and remember, both Dorsey and Jackson have contract situations), it would be:

Jackson - Poe - Dorsey - Hali
Gotcha. I still think Jackson is gone. Dorsey would be a good fit....but only if he comes back under a better contract. Are you looking for more of a run stuffer in Jackson's spot or a pass rusher?

I'm obviously not familiar with the defense.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:46 AM   #9
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Gotcha. I still think Jackson is gone. Dorsey would be a good fit....but only if he comes back under a better contract. Are you looking for more of a run stuffer in Jackson's spot or a pass rusher?

I'm obviously not familiar with the defense.
Looking for a guy that can eat space and split double teams. Basically a better version of Tyson Jackson...
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:11 AM   #10
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I always felt like we wasted Jackson and Dorsey in the first place playing a 3-4. We never found a good NT, although maybe Poe would get there. I think I have zero problem going back to the 4-3. We won't need to waste time finding a unicorn at NT and can just go after pass rushers.

Kiffin's old but at least he doesn't need help running the D. That's the concern with Reid. I'm not against hiring an inexperienced guy but if he's in over his head we're screwed. They need to hire someone Reid can just leave alone with the defense.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:39 PM   #11
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Bad news is, as somebody already pointed out:

It's possible this coaching staff will deem drafting Demontre Moore more important than taking the top QB
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:20 AM   #13
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DL would go big SDE (could Jackson play this?), 1-Tech in Poe, 3-Tech in Dorsey and then WDE in Hali. Houston would be the SLB and line up right beside the SDE similar to a 3-4 look. DJ would likely be the WLB if I were to guess and we would bring in a MLB (draft Arthur Brown? or a FA pick-up?).

Another article talking 4-3 under scheme.

http://www.battleredblog.com/2009/7/...uction-the-4-3

Basically this defense still asks a lot from Hali (WDE) and Houston (SLB)!

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Old 01-07-2013, 10:29 AM   #14
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DL would go big SDE (could Jackson play this?), 1-Tech in Poe, 3-Tech in Dorsey and then WDE in Hali. Houston would be the SLB and line up right beside the SDE similar to a 3-4 look. DJ would likely be the WLB if I were to guess and we would bring in a MLB (draft Arthur Brown? or a FA pick-up?).

Another article talking 4-3 under scheme.

http://www.battleredblog.com/2009/7/...uction-the-4-3
Based on how Jackson responded when moved inside for pass rushing makes me think he would do well as a strong side DE in the 4-3.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:32 AM   #15
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I don't see why Justin Houston couldn't thrive in a Von Miller type role he ran a 4.62 which is plenty fast
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