Religious question

[el borracho]

Is the christian god a god of wrath?

[Logical]

I think there is just a creator, not a God of any one religion. I believe that if he intervenes it is not likely in a wrathful manner

[plbrdude]

Originally Posted by el borracho

Not trying to provoke anybody but the Phelps video from another thread made me curious. From what I understand the old testament was pretty full of hand-on smiting and such. I am wondering how people perceive the christian god and how his actions from the old testament fit into that ideal.

it would do phelps good to do a reread on the story of the conversion of saul of tarsus. of course he is now known as paul. he found out that his work for God was not that at all. it was nothing more than persecution of christians

[DanT]

Originally Posted by el borracho

Not trying to provoke anybody but the Phelps video from another thread made me curious. From what I understand the old testament was pretty full of hand-on smiting and such. I am wondering how people perceive the christian god and how his actions from the old testament fit into that ideal.

There is a such thing as the wrath of God, but I wouldn't say that He is a "god of wrath". Even in the Old Testament accounts concerning Sodom and Gomorrah, His mercy was as apparent as His wrath:

http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/genesis/genesis18.htm

Originally Posted by Genesis 18:20--33

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6 Then the LORD said: "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great, and their sin so grave,
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that I must go down and see whether or not their actions fully correspond to the cry against them that comes to me. I mean to find out."
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While the two men walked on farther toward Sodom, the LORD remained standing before Abraham.
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Then Abraham drew nearer to him and said: "Will you sweep away the innocent with the guilty?
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Suppose there were fifty innocent people in the city; would you wipe out the place, rather than spare it for the sake of the fifty innocent people within it?
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Far be it from you to do such a thing, to make the innocent die with the guilty, so that the innocent and the guilty would be treated alike! Should not the judge of all the world act with justice?"
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The LORD replied, "If I find fifty innocent people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake."
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Abraham spoke up again: "See how I am presuming to speak to my Lord, though I am but dust and ashes!
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What if there are five less than fifty innocent people? Will you destroy the whole city because of those five?" "I will not destroy it," he answered, "if I find forty-five there."
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But Abraham persisted, saying, "What if only forty are found there?" He replied, "I will forebear doing it for the sake of the forty."
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Then he said, "Let not my Lord grow impatient if I go on. What if only thirty are found there?" He replied, "I will forebear doing it if I can find but thirty there."
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Still he went on, "Since I have thus dared to speak to my Lord, what if there are no more than twenty?" "I will not destroy it," he answered, "for the sake of the twenty."
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But he still persisted: "Please, let not my Lord grow angry if I speak up this last time. What if there are at least ten there?" "For the sake of those ten," he replied, "I will not destroy it."
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The LORD departed as soon as he had finished speaking with Abraham, and Abraham returned home.

[chiefsgrl]

not a god of wrath

[chiefs4me]

hmmm, around our house we have the wrath of dad...

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Oh, Jesus, I hope a mod moves this.

I didn't know we allowed public prayer on this BB.

[Skip Towne]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I didn't know we allowed public prayer on this BB.

You must have 70 100 post threads to do it.

[banyon]

Ezekiel 25:17
Pulp Fiction version (YEAH!)
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides with the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon those with great vengeance and with furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know that my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

You must have 70 100 post threads to do it.

Impossible. No mortal could do such a thing.

[Auld Lang Syne]

Originally Posted by DanT

There is a such thing as the wrath of God, but I wouldn't say that He is a "god of wrath". Even in the Old Testament accounts concerning Sodom and Gomorrah, His mercy was as apparent as His wrath:

http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/genesis/genesis18.htm

I would consider the flood that wiped out virtually all of the earth in some ways considered wrathful.

I also wonder what the people of the earth did in those days that would incur the wrath of God? Do you think the earth might have been as advanced in technology as we are now? Just think of what mankind has come up with in the way of inventions in the past 250 years. I don't think man was any less inventive back then, what could they have done?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Auld Lang Syne

I would consider the flood that wiped out virtually all of the earth in some ways considered wrathful.

I also wonder what the people of the earth did in those days that would incur the wrath of God? Do you think the earth might have been as advanced in technology as we are now? Just think of what mankind has come up with in the way of inventions in the past 250 years. I don't think man was any less inventive back then, what could they have done?

Please don't tell me you're one of those people who thinks the world is only 6,000 years old....Did you ever think that maybe the 'flood' was a meterological anamoly?? Or a tsunami after a large earthquake a la what happened in Banda Aceh??

[4th and Long]

Originally Posted by Auld Lang Syne

Do you think the earth might have been as advanced in technology as we are now?

Let's see. We can find dinosaur bones that are millions of years old but we have yet to find evidence of a 6,000 year old microwave oven.

I'm going to say, no.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by 4th and Long

Let's see. We can find dinosaur bones that are millions of years old but we have yet to find evidence of a 6,000 year old microwave oven.

I'm going to say, no.

It was 'vaporized' when god got pissed and put us all in *his* microwave oven.

[4th and Long]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It was 'vaporized' when god got pissed and put us all in *his* microwave oven.

Scientific evidence does not support your claim. Please, don't quit your day job.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by 4th and Long

Scientific evidence does not support your claim. Please, don't quit your day job.

Science, schmience, we're talking about the word of God here, you know, the snake oil proferred to people through such outlets as the whore-chasing Jimmy Swaggert, Serial Pedophiles in the Catholic Church (the same organization that denied the existence of the Holocaust for decades ), Jim Baker and his wife Pennywise the Clown.